MPI Tuned car hits 13.56 and 108.6mph

yep, Im sure the motor has more in it...and Im sure you will hit those 12s.
I just dont see it happening if you leave the car as it is and just throw slicks on it, thats all.
 
MPNick said:
I would take a 2.0 60ft time. We are far from done. The engine is still new, less then 1,000 miles on it. We will bump the boost to 20psi, Dean will drive better with more seat time, I will find more ponies from more fine tuning. If the Hondas can do it so can a Protege.


Thanks again


Later............Nick
20PSI I love that, You rock man, I can not wait to get forged goodies
 
progressive boost controllers are your friends.

what is he using to control boost right now?

-B
 
LinuxRacr said:
You'd be surprised!
LOL, think so, eh? Prove me wrong. Show me a street driven protege that gets halfway decent 60' times.
 
MPNick said:
They better take 6/10ths off. Dana is right, tire will help but we still need to work a little more power out of the car and then we have the driver thing to worry about. Is Dean a 12 second driver? Maybe he is a 13 second driver in a 12 second car? Maybe I am a 13 second tuner with a 12 second driver?

Thanks again

Later.......Nick
Dean doesn't seem to be doing bad at all, but he could do a TAD better. The best 60' times I ever really see are 2.3s or so. Most people puill a 2.5. So in the grand scheme of things, Dean is doing a bit better than most.

What you really have to do is figure out WHY are cars are such poor launchers. If you do, you'll make ALL of the proteges faster in the 1/4 mile. If you just make Dean's car have more HP, you're only solving HIS 1/4 mile time woes. But his trap speed will always be a "second faster" than his time.

Like I said before, try some kind of springs or adjustable coilovers. Tall springs in the rear. Stiff as hell. Soft springs in the front. Give it a shot.
 
turboge said:
In EVO world we're trappin 108mph with high 12.8-12.9 and 1.7 60'. No reason with a good launch and traction Dean couldn't hit the same. Nice results.
Do you SERIOUSLY think that a POOR launching FWD car can match the 60' time of an EVO with similar power? You're talking about dropping .6 seconds within the first 60'. Trust me dude, it ain't happening with Dean's car in its current state.
 
wrinkle walls...

do like some honda guys and put a wheelie bar. i've see a pnumatic wheelie bar that actually lifts up the rear of the car like 2 inches and drives the weight to the front. hehe.
 
Kooldino said:
Dean doesn't seem to be doing bad at all, but he could do a TAD better. The best 60' times I ever really see are 2.3s or so. Most people puill a 2.5. So in the grand scheme of things, Dean is doing a bit better than most..
ive pulled a few 2.2s in the p5 before, not really that difficult if you don't drop the clutch like most people do.
 
In my old protege I managed a 2.1 60' on Falken Azenis, I've seen plenty of FWD cars hit 1.7-1.8. If you want the numbers, you'll get the tires that will produce them. The solution shouldn't be "20 psi will put it into the 12's" it should be a combination of proper boost control and better tires. You've got the power for it, it really doesn't need any more yet.
 
AFaceInTheCrowd said:
wrinkle walls...

do like some honda guys and put a wheelie bar. i've see a pnumatic wheelie bar that actually lifts up the rear of the car like 2 inches and drives the weight to the front. hehe.
is that allowed???
 
Kooldino said:
LOL, think so, eh? Prove me wrong. Show me a street driven protege that gets halfway decent 60' times.
Yet to be seen, just saying don't be surprised if you see it soon!
 
Kooldino said:
Dean doesn't seem to be doing bad at all, but he could do a TAD better. The best 60' times I ever really see are 2.3s or so. Most people puill a 2.5. So in the grand scheme of things, Dean is doing a bit better than most.

What you really have to do is figure out WHY are cars are such poor launchers. If you do, you'll make ALL of the proteges faster in the 1/4 mile. If you just make Dean's car have more HP, you're only solving HIS 1/4 mile time woes. But his trap speed will always be a "second faster" than his time.

Like I said before, try some kind of springs or adjustable coilovers. Tall springs in the rear. Stiff as hell. Soft springs in the front. Give it a shot.
I'll agree with the suspension stuff helping him out. He currently has his springs clamped to help stiffen them, but they need to be a little more stiff.
 
Bigg Tim said:
I'll agree with the suspension stuff helping him out. He currently has his springs clamped to help stiffen them, but they need to be a little more stiff.

Does he have different engine mounts those engines really move when you take off
 
orangezoom said:
Does he have different engine mounts those engines really move when you take off
Yeah he has the AWR front and rear and the AWR subframe brace, the one that goes from the front to the back. That thing is a lot thicker than the stocker.
 
MPNick said:
If the Hondas can do it so can a Protege.
exactly... all the tech and ingenuity used going to drag cars like these always help. things like corner weighting, strategic placement of weight to help distribute and get the most possible power to the ground, degree and height the motor sits, etc. etc. will trash away at the time slips and 60fts. granted some of these methods will get deeper and deeper into a race only car (not to mention budget) but it's still something to learn by. what the industry has learned by now is that gobs of power is only part of the equation. good luck. (cool)
 
I personally think that the first thing he has to do is get a progressive boost controller...

8 in first, 12 in second, 20 trough the rest...that s*** would FLY
 

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