Mazdaspeed6 introduced

yep the reason I have a 6 now is cause dodge marked the srt-4 up to fawkin $28...I can get a RS for that! Oh and the no test drive policy was in efect even after aprasial (gtfo)
 
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Hello all,

I love the car, it shows Mazda and MNAO guys have guts and they're still committed to the recent years' sports car soul concept, and to bring it to the US.
Now, I see some good and not-so-good things from CAREFULLY reading the tech article on the Mazdaspeed6...
http://www.media.mazda.com/news_release/product_info/2004/0924a_e.html

Good:
- Obviously active torque-split AWD system & Turbo (duh!).
- 50% improved torsional rigidity over conventional chassis.
- Chassis reinforcements aren't adding too much weight.
- You can still switch off the DSC.
- Brakes, Suspensions, Chassis & Electronics thought out as a one = Famous Mazda handling.
- Normal, Sport & Snow modes are electronically selected for the front/rear torque distribution system.
- Power take-off (PTO) system helps launch by "agressively" transfering torque to the rear wheels.
- Rear LSD.
- Higher torque figures at lower RPMs from the direct-injection system.
- Steel crankshaft and rods.
- Simple single turbocharger design.
- Available boost "at around 2500 RPM".

Not-so-good:
- Relatively high 9.5:1 compression ratio.
- Electronic throttle.
- Latest Mazda ECU softwares don't seem too friendly for tuners...
- Normal, Sport & Snow modes seem to be determined only by the computer, not the user (maybe I'm wrong...).
- Open front differential (this is more I wish it had an LSD kind of thing...).
- Top-mount IC not as "friendly" as a FMIC design.

Anyway, just a few points I noticed...
Later,
Andrs.
 
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Top-mount

I for one am anxiously awaiting the arrival of this car to complement my little yellow MSP. I went in to the dealership and extended my wife's lease on our 2000 Protege SE so that I could hang on until it came out (was just set to buy a 2005 Legacy GT). The dealer said that he expected it to be around $38000.00 CAN, which would put it in the same ball-park as the Legacy GT and quite a bit cheaper than the STi, the Evo8, and the R32.

I love all of the positive points mentioned about this car, although the styling is verging on "too refined" (can you say....sleeper?). But the top-mount is an issue of concern. While I know the hood scoop is a popular thing these days, I am interested to see how the air delivery is managed under the hood, if there is no hood scoop. Will it work any better than the pathetic little side-mount installed on my MSP? It will be interesting to see. I'm sure there will be more than a few aftermarket hood kits that become available quickly enough if this system proves ineffective.

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Top-mount IC not as "friendly" as a FMIC design.

Anyway, just a few points I noticed...
Later,
Andrs.
 
top mount with no scoop...is it still considered an intercooler? Maybe it's gas cooled and that info was left out (Hopefully) like when they made the V6 run pig fawkin rich. front mount with evo hood vents would be a far more better system imho.

Newf said:
a neon for 28k? Is that US$?

ROFL!!!!!
Their reasoning behind it was cause it's a red High Perfomance vehicle with 1 mile on the odo! sitting on the lot for 6 months and still no bites...when 5 people walk out the door the same day after hearing the price and the car sits for more than 5 months selling it before the 04 models (Perticularly electric blue) to come in would be ideal. We went down the street to maxda and took the RX-8 out with just a license and insurance info. After I got back I tested th 3s and 6i after the 6i came out cheaper I got it....shudda waited for a manual(chair)
 
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Da 6 said:
yep the reason I have a 6 now is cause dodge marked the srt-4 up to fawkin $28...I can get a RS for that! Oh and the no test drive policy was in efect even after aprasial (gtfo)
(wow) If you can make it to Tulsa their $19,500 on the 04's and they have one for test driving that's been rode harder than my girlfriend at a bukake party! (rockon)
 
travisto said:
(wow) If you can make it to Tulsa their $19,500 on the 04's and they have one for test driving that's been rode harder than my girlfriend at a bukake party! (rockon)
Oh man that was your girlfriend?!(evil)
 
Damn i thougt they'd make it look like the JDM A-Spec version. it looks better
 
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I'm confused...You guys seem to keep using the phrase "bring it over here". Why would they not build it at the flat rock plant like all the other Mazda 6's?
 
SVTJayC said:
I'm confused...You guys seem to keep using the phrase "bring it over here". Why would they not build it at the flat rock plant like all the other Mazda 6's?
Not only does Flat Rock not have the capability (I mean the tooling, I'm not dissing them), but Flat Rock also has its hands completely full at the moment with the Mustang and also working on the Mustang variants (i.e. next is convertible, followed by the special editions).
 
travisto said:
(wow) If you can make it to Tulsa their $19,500 on the 04's and they have one for test driving that's been rode harder than my girlfriend at a bukake party! (rockon)
rofl(rlaugh)
 
SVTJayC said:
I'm confused...You guys seem to keep using the phrase "bring it over here". Why would they not build it at the flat rock plant like all the other Mazda 6's?
reason being the 2.3 us is 160 jdm 2.3 is 175 utilzing difrent engine block and head all together running 91 and up octane. mazda usa are cheap and if it is made here we loose the navi and possibly a chance at hids(which the headlight housing is designed for from the get go)....reason 3 has more stuff than the bigger luxury sport sedan(notcool)

I'm not dissing you 3 guys...just mazda for maing the sport compact more luxurier than the the luxury sports sedan! and after all the whining and crying the speed RX-8 has clear side markers and we still get te amber ones.

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um I dont think the jdm 2.3 is a enrite different block just differet heads and pistons
 
jdm 2.3 utilizes a 2.3 duratec block? not tring to spew misinfo just correct whats on the table now...I was told swaping blocks wasn't feasable cause if I was able to I was going to a jyard and snatch one.
 
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it's the same engine design worldwide, just with different tuning for each region's fuel/emission requirements.
 

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