Mazdaspeed6 introduced

The car is going to be HOT...of course the haters will post empty reasons why it sucks or isn't up to par...but once the car is on the street...most will see the light...and most will be drooling just to check one out...search for this post in a year and you'll see what I mean...
 
mod.....al you need is rims and tint....that's it! as crossbow mentioned earlier those rims(I'm not liking so much) would ebay for a really really good profit! I'd also sell that accord front end so someone can have a real mazdaspeed front facia on their 6...for another profit as well. with the money you can get ligher better looking rims and my taste would be sport package front end.
 
I wonder though, since they had hard time selling all the Protg MSP and the Miata MSP, will this time be different? If not, than I'll wait to make sure prices will fall 'till they are desperate so this time I'll get a good deal! :)
 
Antoine said:
The car is going to be HOT...of course the haters will post empty reasons why it sucks or isn't up to par...but once the car is on the street...most will see the light...and most will be drooling just to check one out...search for this post in a year and you'll see what I mean...
it is going to be hot ( in more way then 1...i.e..heat soak) and I would probably trade my speed for it in a heart beat.

But since this car is going to be nearing 40 grand for me, my opinion probably doesn't matter as I will never afford it. To be honest though, 276hp, and it only does 0-60 in 6.6 seconds? wtf?? Typo, bad drivers? No impressive at all.
 
Yeah...that 6.6 0-60 time does concern me...will see when the automotive media start testing them...bit it's still HOT!...:p
 
wow, it's been like 2 months since i've posted here since i got my evo.
and now I get a email from MazdaUsa about this MS6, and let me wipe my tears off.
I got my evo cause i didn't think ms6 was going to happen, i love the evo, but i'm sure i can love a ms6 more. sucks that i have like 10k negative equity after the msp, i would have traded in for ms6.

but in all reality, i don't think this will be less then 35k msrp. and dealers will probably want 40+ at first, and i'm sure some of you will pay that.
think about it, 25k for a 4cyl, add turbo 28k, add awd 32k, add all that suspension tuning and stiffened frame 35k and bigger wheels, bigger disc brakes and on and on, i'm sure the price will be outragous like on the MSM.

that's my 2 cents.
 
The price isn't outrageous on the Mazdaspeed MX-5.

The price won't be outrageous on this car neither. It'll be in-line with all other Mazdaspeed products.

An EVO is over priced for what you get, so is an STi...
 
My crystal ball says there will be a lot of tears shed when the Altima SE-R (and legacy gt) starts handing out damage to MS6 owners.
Forget the peak hp and torque numbers. Lets see the torque spread on a dyno sheet.
Not to be such a party pooper but IMO those looking for performance will buy the sti,lancer,et all. And those looking for a sports sedan will opt for the legacy or the N/A grunt of the Altima at the same price.
Seriously.....Excluding the sti and the evo, who the **** wants to lay out 30 grand on a 4 banger?

It will be the msp vs srt-4 BS all over again.
 
Out of curiosity, where did the AWD system come from? I am not familiar with it, and I dont recall any AWD mazdas in the US since the GTX.
 
StuttersC said:
The price isn't outrageous on the Mazdaspeed MX-5.

The price won't be outrageous on this car neither. It'll be in-line with all other Mazdaspeed products.

An EVO is over priced for what you get, so is an STi...
thanks, i didn't expect anything less harsh from a die hard mazda fan.
I know it's overpriced that's why i got it so i can kick myself everyday i wake up. but when i hit the gas in 4th gear and fly by you it only feels so much better.
although my msp at 14psi was quicker i thought, evo is just insanely too much fun in the twisties, and yeah that's comparing to msp.

but this is a MS6 thread and i guarantee you a msrp price of at least 33k. but to make all of you feel warm and fuzzy, you can wish mazda will sell it for 28k.
the more you guys love it the more expansive it will be, it's the rules of sales.
mark my words, the first ms6 for sale will have a price tag of over 40k after the dealer markup
 
ViksMSP said:
but this is a MS6 thread and i guarantee you a msrp price of at least 33k. but to make all of you feel warm and fuzzy, you can wish mazda will sell it for 28k.
the more you guys love it the more expansive it will be, it's the rules of sales.
mark my words, the first ms6 for sale will have a price tag of over 40k after the dealer markup
I dont doubt your theory, but I cant imagine who would pay it...There's not THAT much stigma surrounding the MAZDASPEED brand, not anticipation of the MS6 like there was for the EVO, STi, LegacyGT, even the Infiniti G35(just to stretch things out a bit)...I envision the car being overpriced and seeing them sit on dealer lots for upwards of 6months before being sold for or below invoice to people who'd rather have a great deal than the car they actually like the best.
 
protegeV said:
I dont doubt your theory, but I cant imagine who would pay it...There's not THAT much stigma surrounding the MAZDASPEED brand, not anticipation of the MS6 like there was for the EVO, STi, LegacyGT, even the Infiniti G35(just to stretch things out a bit)...I envision the car being overpriced and seeing them sit on dealer lots for upwards of 6months before being sold for or below invoice to people who'd rather have a great deal than the car they actually like the best.
I agree partially, i think it will be a big hit, people loved the M6, and it was praised inside out by so many magazines, same with mazda3, i see so many of them now. People know about M6, as soon as they see MS6 on front page article of Road and Track, guess what, you'll see a big smile on your local dealers face. The game again will be about waiting, some that have patience will wait and save, but i'm sure there's going to be people buying these things at over 35k.
btw is the motor a stock 2.3l or is it upgraded to some point? maybe lower compression pistons? other then DISI, what other mods? anyone know what size turbo?
and if it's awd with a 6spd, i don't know, i wish it would be under 30k, and maybe with a big bonus this year i might be able to pay off some of that negative equity i got.
 
protegeV said:
Out of curiosity, where did the AWD system come from? I am not familiar with it, and I dont recall any AWD mazdas in the US since the GTX.
They have many cars over seas with AWD even the M6 wagons in europe are AWD
 
I dont understand why they dont offer it in the states...Hell, slap some AWD on the 3 and 6 and you got decent competition for the impreza and legacy...
 
Must be hiroshima! After that no japanese cars were remotely as powerfull. If the import the 6 then we would have way more stuff...dammit they imported the 3 and RX-8...Ond hopefully soon the MS6! After test driving the compedaters..the 6 is missing woodgrain in the states!
 
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LaserBlue said:
My crystal ball says there will be a lot of tears shed when the Altima SE-R (and legacy gt) starts handing out damage to MS6 owners.
Forget the peak hp and torque numbers. Lets see the torque spread on a dyno sheet.
Not to be such a party pooper but IMO those looking for performance will buy the sti,lancer,et all. And those looking for a sports sedan will opt for the legacy or the N/A grunt of the Altima at the same price.
Seriously.....Excluding the sti and the evo, who the **** wants to lay out 30 grand on a 4 banger?

It will be the msp vs srt-4 BS all over again.
The link I posted to the article about the car has a pic of some sort of dyno I'm guessing.

The curve is nice. Peak troque at around 2000 rpm and it starts to fall off at about 5000...See attached.
 

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ViksMSP said:
thanks, i didn't expect anything less harsh from a die hard mazda fan.
I know it's overpriced that's why i got it so i can kick myself everyday i wake up. but when i hit the gas in 4th gear and fly by you it only feels so much better.
although my msp at 14psi was quicker i thought, evo is just insanely too much fun in the twisties, and yeah that's comparing to msp.

but this is a MS6 thread and i guarantee you a msrp price of at least 33k. but to make all of you feel warm and fuzzy, you can wish mazda will sell it for 28k.
the more you guys love it the more expansive it will be, it's the rules of sales.
mark my words, the first ms6 for sale will have a price tag of over 40k after the dealer markup
Before you got get all high and mighty on me, I think the R32 was overpriced a bit as well.

I'm glad you are happy with your EVO. Quite frankly, I've never really been impressed with Mitsubishi for much of what they've built over the years. To many crappy cars.

We'll wait and see what the MSRP will be. It could be higher than 30k, but talk is cheap as of now. Like as been mentioned, the car hasn't even been finalized for the US. There si no telling what it will cost.

As for people paying way more than what its worth, oh well. If you don't want to be an informed consumer and go buy a car with a handful of knowledge and an idea of what the car is worth, so be it. You are going to get burned by doing that.

Dealer mark-up is BS. I refuse to pay that stuff simply because it is a "limited" vehicle. There is no need for that kind of stuff and those dealers will have the cars on the lot for a long time. I saw it happen in the Denver metro area with the MP3, the MSP and MS MX-5...

So it goes...
 
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