Mazdaspeed6 introduced

(omg) i am practically sold on that MS6 274HP 280trqe 2.3L turbo with AWD. sh*t. (dance) (mj)

and i planned on getting a saturn ION QC. dam i know this car aint coming in til this time next year. got a '01 kia sephia atm (blarf)

dam maby i should wait?.... IONS do have 4500 off MSRP that should help in depreciation balance it off til MS6 (yes)

dam i wish it was 2006 already
 
Captain KRM P5 said:
no offense, but a subwoofer that frequently goes bad mated to statistically poor headunit and a LSD that snaps under pressure doesn't 'wow' me as much as a turbocharged all wheel drive sedan whose American release numbers have not even bee finalized yet. you're comparing rotton apples to oranges from a tree that you haven't even seen yet.

you make it sound like all mazda is going to do is slap on an extra set of driveaxles and a turbo. on the protege, the ms miata, the older 323 gtxs, 323 gts, rx7s, and the so-called msrx8 mazda has beefed up every aspect of thier special editions. what makes you think mazda would treat the ms6 as any less of a complete package?
I didn't expect the MS6 to dissapoint. But when the MS Miata came out, all it really had was a turbo. And that was what Miata's were really missing. But you woulda assumed that they woulda done something with the sound system and all. Keep in mind though, if I didn't have the MSP, I woulda hit the miata long ago (gotta love 50/50 weight distro & RWD). I was expecting maybe a little too much. After all, even with our problems with the MSP, don't you think that if you didn't know about those issues, that the car was the s***? Come on. Your dissin it now because it's been giving your grief n all. I'll admit though, I didnt' even know what I was typing on my post. But when I saw the pictures of the car, it didn't wow me, so it pretty much went the same for the entire car.

Anyways, when I saw first MazdaSpeed protege it was something I didn't expect any car company would do. It was slightly tricked out but they touch just enough on everything to make you love the car in front of you. But after the MazdaSpeed Miata, all we seem to see was just the new turbo, looks and all the performance parts that are associated with it. That's great and all, but you could have done something with the sound system. It was something given when you saw the first MazdaSpeed. Really, when you saw the MSP, you didn't care that it had the turbo or not. The fact that it had a different deck besides the stock one, made you knew that there must be more to this car then the looks and sound. If the MS6 exterior/interior can break out of its current setup (which is fine by the way, but something totally different would be really cool), it'll for sure sell the car the moment people sit in the thing. Just the fact something like the sound system is different from all the Mazda6's in the showroom, would prolly gives many people good vibes. Just cause if has AWD & new turbo, would it make people notice that more quickly? After all, most car buyers already know that Subaru is king of AWD with turbo's, so by introducing AWD & new turbo (and better suspension) under the hood, won't mean I'll buy the car.
 
soccrstar said:
(omg) i am practically sold on that MS6 274HP 280trqe 2.3L turbo with AWD. sh*t. (dance) (mj)

and i planned on getting a saturn ION QC. dam i know this car aint coming in til this time next year. got a '01 kia sephia atm (blarf)

dam maby i should wait?.... IONS do have 4500 off MSRP that should help in depreciation balance it off til MS6 (yes)

dam i wish it was 2006 already
Looks like the conversion figures aren't too far off. Which is great. I wonder if this car has the potential to hit 300whp with higher boost... LOL... or will it pop like our MSP's??? hahaha

But from the images, it seems that the overall apperance of the MS6 hasn't changed from the posted pics on this forum. I hope this at least changes when 2006 arrives.

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WHY THE **** DID MAZDA NOT PUT THESE RIMS ON THE MS6. THAT ALONE WOULDA MADE ME BUY THE CAR!!! http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/speedDisplayAccessoryDetail.action?speedAccessoryId=46&startModelYear=2004&endModelYear=2005&categoryId=5&carLineCode=MZ6
 
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overall the car looks sweet, if i were to ever get one that intercooler and pipeing would go.. how the hell does that thing even get air to cool it.. FMIC is a must for that car...thats my opinion
 
Sushi-Monster said:
when you saw the MSP, you didn't care that it had the turbo or not. The fact that it had a different deck besides the stock one, made you knew that there must be more to this car then the looks and sound.
WHAT?!?!?! You're telling me that you bought your MSP for a bad kenwood head unit and some half decent speakers?

Sushi-Monster said:
If the MS6 exterior/interior can break out of its current setup (which is fine by the way, but something totally different would be really cool)
Go look at the car in your driveway. One of the reasons it sold so well is because of the similair look it had to the awsome looking 3rd gen proteges.

Sushi-Monster said:
Just the fact something like the sound system is different from all the Mazda6's in the showroom, would prolly gives many people good vibes.
That's a good point, but do you really want people driving a 300 hp, 3200 lb car around because they like the sound instead of the performance?


Sushi-Monster said:
Just cause if has AWD & new turbo, would it make people notice that more quickly?
Ummmm, yeah I think that's kinda what they're goin after there slick.

Sushi-Monster said:
After all, most car buyers already know that Subaru is king of AWD with turbo's.
Who told you that? Indeed they are great, but the king? I disagree. I'm trying to think of another car company that uses AWD turbo platforms and performs better than subaru....

OH YEAH!! Porsche!!! Man, how could I forget about them. Well, and mitsubishi, who's been mass producing AWD turbo cars longer that subaru.


Not trying to flme you man, but there were just too many ****** up comments in there for me to resist.
 
The MS6 is on my select list of cars I'd by next. Overall, I'm very excited that Mazda brought the AWD Turbo'd 6 to our shores. I'm very interested in testing thie MS6 and 2004 Subaru 2.5GT the next summer back-to-back. I think the MS6 has the suspension, limited edition, and the fact that it's a Mazda helping it win the debate between the two.
 
The MS6 and the new 2.5GT are going to be very different cars in my opinion. I dont think it'll be just any one or two things that make the decision for you once you actually ride in both of em.
 
The Stereo was a selling point for me in the speed. And that fact that this car doesn't have a cool stereo is not good for me. I lease my cars, and I dont' like tearing up the interior and s*** to put in a better stereo, only to throw money away since it's a lease.

Top that with the very difficult dash setup in the Mazda6, making it very hard to put in an aftermarkey one, and I was really hoping to see a better stereo system in the Mazdaspeed 6. I've driven a few loaded 6's, and the optional Bose system sucks ass.

Granted, AWD, and a stock turbo is a much more important thing to have, and not easily added later on if you didin't have them. but, they could have done something with the stereo. I hope that changes before release.

For the record, my sub/speakers/head unit have been flawless.
 
I don't really mind the bose system, actually. for a stock audio system its pretty good.. good enough that I'm not going to change anything..
 
Captain KRM P5 said:
it would have to be at/around/under $30,000 to be a viable alternative to the Evo/Wrx crowd
At 30k it's not a viable alternative to the wrx; it would be competing with the STi which would eat it for lunch... Seems like more of a competitor to the Legacy GT, as long as they keep the price down...
 
sti = completely different car, as is the evo.

The speed has tons more class and aimed towards a more "mature" and professional character. The STI/EVO scream boy racer with deep pockets.

I'm guessing in Canadian dollars, the Mazdaspeed 6 will be around 36-38 grand.

my speed was 28, 600 ( not what I paid though )

The 6, 4cyl, 5spd with leather, bose system, ground effects, spoiler etc, basically loaded, is 31 grand here as it is.


The legacy is a better match. As is a 3 series sedan.
 
Sushi-Monster said:
I didn't expect the MS6 to dissapoint. But when the MS Miata came out, all it really had was a turbo. And that was what Miata's were really missing. But you woulda assumed that they woulda done something with the sound system and all. Keep in mind though, if I didn't have the MSP, I woulda hit the miata long ago (gotta love 50/50 weight distro & RWD). I was expecting maybe a little too much. After all, even with our problems with the MSP, don't you think that if you didn't know about those issues, that the car was the s***? Come on. Your dissin it now because it's been giving your grief n all. I'll admit though, I didnt' even know what I was typing on my post. But when I saw the pictures of the car, it didn't wow me, so it pretty much went the same for the entire car.

Anyways, when I saw first MazdaSpeed protege it was something I didn't expect any car company would do. It was slightly tricked out but they touch just enough on everything to make you love the car in front of you. But after the MazdaSpeed Miata, all we seem to see was just the new turbo, looks and all the performance parts that are associated with it. That's great and all, but you could have done something with the sound system. It was something given when you saw the first MazdaSpeed. Really, when you saw the MSP, you didn't care that it had the turbo or not. The fact that it had a different deck besides the stock one, made you knew that there must be more to this car then the looks and sound. If the MS6 exterior/interior can break out of its current setup (which is fine by the way, but something totally different would be really cool), it'll for sure sell the car the moment people sit in the thing. Just the fact something like the sound system is different from all the Mazda6's in the showroom, would prolly gives many people good vibes. Just cause if has AWD & new turbo, would it make people notice that more quickly? After all, most car buyers already know that Subaru is king of AWD with turbo's, so by introducing AWD & new turbo (and better suspension) under the hood, won't mean I'll buy the car.
You know someone once made a car just for you.








It was the Ford Focus Sony Xplod edition.
 
Thats okay bro... Everyone has there own opinion. For sure, you have a point. But for some people, who don't have the cash when they buy the car to put in aftermarket stuff, having the usual essentials is a must. But when it comes down to the 300hp 3200lb car, cars like the Acura TL, proven platform can still perform (even though it's a overpriced bucket of crap). Weighing around 3400lbs, the luxury car comes with DVD Audio. Sure, you might think its not all cool and all, but it is a luxury class car. People might possibly buy it because of the DVD Audio when (possibly) no one else has it. It's basically the same idea when I saw the MSP (Actually I knew about the deck way before hand but seeing it in person sure as hell sways your opinion of the car!) but thats my opinion. For the 3rd gen Protgs, it was because of the protege5 that made it look great. The fact that they brought it over to the MazdaSpeed Protg platform made it an instant success. Still, I guess thats contradicting to all my statements since the 6 never had anything to work with from the beginning. For the knowledge of AWD, I was too quick to answer that one. Yeah, Ill take that back. Subaru isnt king of AWD but their pretty damn close. But really, when you come to think of it, I guess the advertising kinda sold me on who was superior in the AWD department. Really, how many Porsche Carrera 4s commercials do you see on TV? Compared to Subaru Legacy GT, I guess most people would think of that over a 120G (CDN estimate) car.


anarchistchiken said:
WHAT?!?!?! You're telling me that you bought your MSP for a bad kenwood head unit and some half decent speakers?


Go look at the car in your driveway. One of the reasons it sold so well is because of the similair look it had to the awsome looking 3rd gen proteges.


That's a good point, but do you really want people driving a 300 hp, 3200 lb car around because they like the sound instead of the performance?



Ummmm, yeah I think that's kinda what they're goin after there slick.


Who told you that? Indeed they are great, but the king? I disagree. I'm trying to think of another car company that uses AWD turbo platforms and performs better than subaru....

OH YEAH!! Porsche!!! Man, how could I forget about them. Well, and mitsubishi, who's been mass producing AWD turbo cars longer that subaru.


Not trying to flme you man, but there were just too many ****** up comments in there for me to resist.
 
eting_pro5 said:
You know someone once made a car just for you.








It was the Ford Focus Sony Xplod edition.
Er, isn't that a 2001 model car??? Oh it seems the MS6 is coming closer than everyone thought... Supposed intro date would be March/April 2005. I guess another 6 months we'll be able to see what it really looks like in person!
 
Sushi-Monster said:
Er, isn't that a 2001 model car??? Oh it seems the MS6 is coming closer than everyone thought... Supposed intro date would be March/April 2005. I guess another 6 months we'll be able to see what it really looks like in person!

You'll most likely see it at SEMA...
 
Sushi-Monster said:
Er, isn't that a 2001 model car??? Oh it seems the MS6 is coming closer than everyone thought... Supposed intro date would be March/April 2005. I guess another 6 months we'll be able to see what it really looks like in person!
so if they say march....they really mean, September right ? :)
 
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