My car is going in Tuesday cause my turbo isnt running correctly. They told me that they know about on the D.I.S.I engine of mazda that the turbo has a on/off switch that is not staying closed or opened something in that matter. Anyways he said that the car feels like constant turbo lag, and I told him that is what is going on. At the same time I asked him about the ecu. He said if there is a reflash for it, it will automaticaly update it when they plug the computer in. They dont ajust anything. So next tuesday I will let everyone know what the hell they did exactly after I talk to them and have a better understanding.
Mazda Reflashed my ECU, Now I Am Not Getting a Black Tailpipe!
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Hey fellow Speed3ers whats up? Well I got to my dealer and he said there was an update for the ECU. I watched as he installed it. He was not sure if it was for the rich condition or for preventing any false cels. I will monitor my tailpipe to see if the soot goes away or is reduced.
$inCitySpeed3
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just a thought, but not every mazda dealership gets MS3's? ISn't it like most Tuner factory cars only certain dealerships have the rights to sell them? Mabye I SAY MAYBE, only mazdaspeed dealerships have the reflash, because they are doing the flashes out here in vegas
knowledge007
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Just got off the phone with my dealer here in Miami, Fl and they say they do not know of any reflash for our ECU...???
$inCitySpeed3
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do they sell mazdaspeed
knowledge007
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$inCitySpeed3 said:
What do you mean. Like I said, my dealer where I purchased my MS3 states they do not know of any reflash.
SharkDiver
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I had to drive 1.5 Hrs. to get to my nearest speed dealer to buy my car.To get my work done I take it to my local dealer that I got all my other mazdas from,They are not a speed dealer.
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SharkDiver
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When I talked to my dealer they also said they dont know of any code.He said when the mechanic looks at it he will know if there is a flash or not.C'ville said:
Turns out he said there was a flash,or they are not telling the truth.
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$inCitySpeed3
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just read this in a mag about the boost on the ms3, i know everyone knows but i did not know the second part
fourthmeal
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One of the many, many reviews I read before buying one myself. I think it works great.
justa4banger
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WOW first off i don't like the black soot (unburnt fuel) on the tail pipe either but i think the main issues here is a possible lack of experience with turbo cars and WAY too much trust in dealerships.
I'm betting that a service manager would be willing to say there was a flash update even if there wasn't just to give the customer a WARM FUZZY. He may even hook up the computer and just Flash it (reset it)
I have had my car for 3300 miles now and drag raced it, dogged it, drove it nice, drove in extreme cold (teens cold for me me Damn it
) drove it in 80* temps and never felt weird power issues. YES the steering will affect the power.
Yes i believe sometimes the DSC (when on) is sometimes slow to react and fumbles itself when you do back to back WOT blasts. At the track though i tried smooth launching and hard launches and i always crossed the traps at the same speed. Times varied but speed was consitant as long as i didn't F'up the launch to bad.
Until there is official TSB for a reflash i don't see whats the arguement is.
ALSO Regardless of whether or not a delaer is an authorized speed dealer or not, TSB hit EVERY dealership. they have to, as you might not have access to a "special " dealer.
The only car i know that has a special ECU and it requires special info is the new Shelby Gt's as i had a tuner friend try to flash the ECU and wasn't able to. he had to get info from another source to break their special encryption crap.
Last comment if the flash is out there, WHY hasn't ANYONE produced the number for it????? Why is this reflash as secret as the conspirators behind the Kennedy assasination?????????
I'm betting that a service manager would be willing to say there was a flash update even if there wasn't just to give the customer a WARM FUZZY. He may even hook up the computer and just Flash it (reset it)
I have had my car for 3300 miles now and drag raced it, dogged it, drove it nice, drove in extreme cold (teens cold for me me Damn it
) drove it in 80* temps and never felt weird power issues. YES the steering will affect the power.Yes i believe sometimes the DSC (when on) is sometimes slow to react and fumbles itself when you do back to back WOT blasts. At the track though i tried smooth launching and hard launches and i always crossed the traps at the same speed. Times varied but speed was consitant as long as i didn't F'up the launch to bad.
Until there is official TSB for a reflash i don't see whats the arguement is.
ALSO Regardless of whether or not a delaer is an authorized speed dealer or not, TSB hit EVERY dealership. they have to, as you might not have access to a "special " dealer.
The only car i know that has a special ECU and it requires special info is the new Shelby Gt's as i had a tuner friend try to flash the ECU and wasn't able to. he had to get info from another source to break their special encryption crap.
Last comment if the flash is out there, WHY hasn't ANYONE produced the number for it????? Why is this reflash as secret as the conspirators behind the Kennedy assasination?????????
fourthmeal
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once again, Cedric from the dealership mentioned that in a newsletter from Mazda service central, that there is a reflash to MS3's that complain of this problem. Its not on a TSB yet (I have access to all TSB's, Identifix employee) but it is available to the reflash programmers on the internet, if you know where to look. Its there, but its not documented like others. Its more of a "by request, if you happened to have read about it" deal. If your service tech hasn't read the update, then sure, he/she's got no idea, and thinks you're crazy. Cedric himself said he hadn't heard of one when I called him about it, but by the time I got there for the oil change (next day), he said his research led him to the reflash location, and he did it for me.
If you want to, call 702-567-8000, ask for Mazda service, talk w/ Cedric about it. But don't tell me I got a warm fuzzy for nothing. I don't see things that way, and I have to see or have a difference to notice anything. Thats just me.
If you want to, call 702-567-8000, ask for Mazda service, talk w/ Cedric about it. But don't tell me I got a warm fuzzy for nothing. I don't see things that way, and I have to see or have a difference to notice anything. Thats just me.
fourthmeal
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i've mentioned it a few times, but it was probably back at the beginning of this post.
I told him that it was running rich to me (from my previous experience w/ turbo cars), and when he looked around for a flash, he found one. It mentioned the things I was talking about above, and so we tried it. It worked.
I told him that it was running rich to me (from my previous experience w/ turbo cars), and when he looked around for a flash, he found one. It mentioned the things I was talking about above, and so we tried it. It worked.
justa4banger
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Hey 4thmeal, i'm not attacking you, i just find it hard to believe that IF this fix exists then WHY isn't it on a TSB???????
The Soot on the tail pipoe is a problem. Its WASTING FUEL..... not to mention its bring back my tennis elbow from having to clean the tail pipe.
Could i get a current pic of your tail pipe to see if this So called flash is worth the effort of finding.
The Soot on the tail pipoe is a problem. Its WASTING FUEL..... not to mention its bring back my tennis elbow from having to clean the tail pipe.
Could i get a current pic of your tail pipe to see if this So called flash is worth the effort of finding.
fourthmeal
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(dunno) You didn't attack me, bud.
Its not a TSB because it is not a Technical Service Bulletin. TSB's are written by Mazda engineers, and checked with attorneys. I have access to the same TSB's as the factory, and there is no TSB for this car. The MS3 is only afflicted with a recall, which those who have one know about (the all-season floormats)
There are all sorts of letters and advisements sent to dealer service shops that aren't TSB's. Often, its just not that important. Updates are not usually done w/ TSB's. So, look less for a TSB on it, and more of a technical note. Call and ask Cedric if you like. He's a great guy.
Don't get me wrong, my tailpipe doesn't stay squeaky clean. Far from it. However, there is no more of a cloud of black smoke behind me when I punch it. I'd say its more of a tiny haze. But, under WOT, any car runs a little rich. What really seals the deal for me is that my back hatch area is no longer coated in soot. That was annoying. Just the tailpipe, and much less then before.
Also, gas mileage has increased about 1.5 - 2.0 mpg, avg.
Its not a TSB because it is not a Technical Service Bulletin. TSB's are written by Mazda engineers, and checked with attorneys. I have access to the same TSB's as the factory, and there is no TSB for this car. The MS3 is only afflicted with a recall, which those who have one know about (the all-season floormats)
There are all sorts of letters and advisements sent to dealer service shops that aren't TSB's. Often, its just not that important. Updates are not usually done w/ TSB's. So, look less for a TSB on it, and more of a technical note. Call and ask Cedric if you like. He's a great guy.
Don't get me wrong, my tailpipe doesn't stay squeaky clean. Far from it. However, there is no more of a cloud of black smoke behind me when I punch it. I'd say its more of a tiny haze. But, under WOT, any car runs a little rich. What really seals the deal for me is that my back hatch area is no longer coated in soot. That was annoying. Just the tailpipe, and much less then before.
Also, gas mileage has increased about 1.5 - 2.0 mpg, avg.
$inCitySpeed3
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actually all new dodges(charger,SRTs,300 etc come with the encryption, and so do many others, whats funny is i've never heard of the shelby problem, and i doubt that there is just some guy out there with the code to break it because the nustang aftermarket is probably the biggestaftermaket for cars, but whatever...The flash is not a secert, every speed 3 in vegas has gotten it, i wasn't dont think it's a differnt ecu either, would be a waste, when they have bundles in the parts bin. I wouldn't think they wouldn,t make a TSB, due to the fact of the RX8 being underpowered and they had to buy thousands back, it is not a major problem, just a the air/fuel correction, and might only be affecting cars in different area, like the desert or high mtns, just a guess..
