Intercooler facts and opinions
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Delivery_Guy
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Fede_italiano said:
Yeah, we got it to fit with a little cutting. The cold side pipe fit to the stock pipe perfectly. Some people would say I should have gotten a different intake.
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- Mazda Protege Titanium 03.5
IMO, For msp applications, I fail to see the need for having a core so large that the bumper support needs to be removed.
My core is 6" tall, at least an inch or two of the bottom is blocked by the front lip.
I say go with another kit because:
a. it'll be cheaper
b. no cutting
c. Perrin isn't superior to the rest
b. get to keep stock bumper support
this is my opinion about the kit, you all have your own.
My core is 6" tall, at least an inch or two of the bottom is blocked by the front lip.
I say go with another kit because:
a. it'll be cheaper
b. no cutting
c. Perrin isn't superior to the rest
b. get to keep stock bumper support
this is my opinion about the kit, you all have your own.
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oh cool thanks for the pics. yea i know its not gonna save ur life. its not supposed to.
i love how the perrin fills the grill, looks wise.
I think each kit has its ups and downs. Its really preference.
Perrin is nice, but the loss of oem bumper support. Mam piping is really tight, may take a few times to get right. ion u have to cut, hiboost has alot of bends and the core is pretty thin comppared to the others. smic is in not the greatest spot
you can nitpick all day on anything u want but fact of the matter is, theyre all better than the stock intercooler. so you do what u need to. look at price, install, quality and look at the vendor, see who has it, see how long it will take etc.
i love how the perrin fills the grill, looks wise.
I think each kit has its ups and downs. Its really preference.
Perrin is nice, but the loss of oem bumper support. Mam piping is really tight, may take a few times to get right. ion u have to cut, hiboost has alot of bends and the core is pretty thin comppared to the others. smic is in not the greatest spot
you can nitpick all day on anything u want but fact of the matter is, theyre all better than the stock intercooler. so you do what u need to. look at price, install, quality and look at the vendor, see who has it, see how long it will take etc.
daedalus said:Yea i know its metal w/styrofoam but its nothing special. Its not like its going to save my life with the styrofoam in the event of a crash.
The perrin is just a flat bar for the core to mount to.
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yea, but does the perrin destabilize the structure of the front bumper ? put it this way, does it make the front end more safe or less safe, ya think ?
well of course, as i said, its untested. that bumper support is supposed to crumble. its not a high impact bumper. i believe they are for absorbing a 5mph crash. so having ANY intercooler there makes it more unsafe and your going to damage s*** anyhow.. cause that ics gonna go right into the ac condensor/rad if it can cause the only way is back. lol
they also say having metal pipes is unsafe too, which i can see. so modifying the car out of oem spec is technically always more dangerous.
but sometimes u gotta pay to play!
on a side note, in a large crash the bumper doesnt help anyway, the cars made to crumble to absorb impact to save the passengers. but having metal pipes and an ic will add to your damage total and the ins will probably give it to ya without vasolene.
they also say having metal pipes is unsafe too, which i can see. so modifying the car out of oem spec is technically always more dangerous.
but sometimes u gotta pay to play!
on a side note, in a large crash the bumper doesnt help anyway, the cars made to crumble to absorb impact to save the passengers. but having metal pipes and an ic will add to your damage total and the ins will probably give it to ya without vasolene.
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lolterbow said:
thanks guys, that's about what I figured....
I have the hiboost. Had for two years and Im happy. Did about 2 hours of continous dyno pulls and the hp was consistent and air temps never rose on about 10 psi. My dyno is somewhere on here. Numbers were low due to a leaking exhuast manifold, busted wastegate diaphram and fouled plugs. Anyhow soon i will dyno with a gt28rs at 10 psi and see if it maintains efficiency.
On another note, I know someone with a MAM kit who said he would rather have my hiboost due to fitment issuses and other things, not bashing it or anything, but no one shows love to hiboost around here.
On another note, I know someone with a MAM kit who said he would rather have my hiboost due to fitment issuses and other things, not bashing it or anything, but no one shows love to hiboost around here.
sniper9 said:
i love my hiboost kit....its great.....i've never had heatsoak in the summer in 90+ weather.
i chose it because it required no cutting at all and was very easy install. For what i have done to my car and the plans i have for it it suits it fine, i couldn't see anything else working any better.
Also now you can find used hiboost kits on here pretty cheap.
definately. the only reason i (meaning me, not in general) wouldnt use hiboost is cause u need to use the old space where the smic was. i wanted a larger radiator cause the ic coveres up more of the rad. let it be noted...it may cause NO issues with cooling whatsoever.. but it would bother me personally lol
I've seen the Perrin FMIC in real life and it's pretty trick. The piping and everything is awesome, and while he gets some s***, Cullen's an OK guy when he's not with his friends who are trying to proove how tough they are with Maglites. He wouldn't sell the Perrin line if it was crap, in fact, up untill the whole 626 manifold thing none of you could say complaint one about him or his services so let's give him a little credit when he post things he knows about personally.
Anyway, because I am extremely retarded I want everything to match on my car and I don't want the Perrin FMIC because I'd have to get the Perrin intake too and it looks retarded.
Where's the CAI like for the SRT-4 and s***, Perrin?
HUH?
The MAM setup looks nice enough and you get a lot of extras, but the Perrin has awesome piping and a core big enough to give you JDM points out the ass. They are both the top-of-the-line FMIC dollar for dollar, what is there to even argue about?
Anyway, because I am extremely retarded I want everything to match on my car and I don't want the Perrin FMIC because I'd have to get the Perrin intake too and it looks retarded.
Where's the CAI like for the SRT-4 and s***, Perrin?
HUH?
The MAM setup looks nice enough and you get a lot of extras, but the Perrin has awesome piping and a core big enough to give you JDM points out the ass. They are both the top-of-the-line FMIC dollar for dollar, what is there to even argue about?
sure, i can take pics and then create a how-to...
I say best bang for buck is like mine or this other guy out of AZ did he built his own from scratch and it looks great and works great, I bought mine from a forum member and he did the same thing, but had help from a tuner shop and they did a great job...
my cost was $350 for FMIC with hardpipes and a HKS SSQ BOV and the other guy who did his own spent less...
I say best bang for buck is like mine or this other guy out of AZ did he built his own from scratch and it looks great and works great, I bought mine from a forum member and he did the same thing, but had help from a tuner shop and they did a great job...
my cost was $350 for FMIC with hardpipes and a HKS SSQ BOV and the other guy who did his own spent less...
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I like the stock intake and I do not like loud turkey.Delivery_Guy said:
Different opinions on the intake, but a CAI has that big elbow that doesn't convince me.
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- 2003.5 Mazda Protege' MazdaSpeed
ZenProtege said:
Was that a custom setup?
More pics?
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- Black RX-8
well, im stock as of now but when & if I get a fmic... I will get some quotes on custom setups before I buy anything. that seems wise...
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Pics of the Perrin (glare)
http://www.**********.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=PMP%2DENG%2D400
http://www.**********.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=PMP%2DENG%2D400
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- Mazda Protege Titanium 03.5
click on the cardomain link. thats all the pics I have as of now
My Cost.....somewhat accurate
(used parts cost for int. and piping)
intercooler-60
random bends of piping-20/30
couplings/clamps-75
bov-40
fabbed bends of piping= free, but would have been like 80$, The charge pipe is crush bent but will hopefully soon be the mandrel aluminum like the rest
air filter- 50
misc-40
My Cost.....somewhat accurate
(used parts cost for int. and piping)
intercooler-60
random bends of piping-20/30
couplings/clamps-75
bov-40
fabbed bends of piping= free, but would have been like 80$, The charge pipe is crush bent but will hopefully soon be the mandrel aluminum like the rest
air filter- 50
misc-40
