If you remove the governor how fast do you think MS3 could go?

Max speed of the MS3 if electronic restrictions were lifted?

  • Less than 160 MPH

    Votes: 24 51.1%
  • 160 MPH to 170 MPH

    Votes: 15 31.9%
  • 170 MPH to 180 MPH

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • 180 to 200 MPH

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • 200+ MPH

    Votes: 3 6.4%

  • Total voters
    47
  • Poll closed .

Mocoso

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Mazda 07 MS3, Chevy 05 C6
Opinions are welcome and no the question isnt intended to address any practical matters....

Someone posted in another thread that a dealer was claiming the car did 216 in Europe after they removed the governor.. my opinion is that the drag and/or gear limited max speed of the MS3 is actually closer to 155 than most think... I would guess somewhere in the 160's.

To put it in perspective:
186 MPH is the drag limit on a C6 corvette with 400HP
198 MPH is the drag limit on a C6 Z06 Corvette with 500+ HP
Needs an extra 100HP to get 10 miles more top speed - No way is the MS3 hitting 200+ MPH IMHO...
 
My P5 running 1 bar of boost and no gov topped out at 140 mph, maybe a little higher. your not getting anywhere near 160 in a MS3 IMO
 
Most magazines have had problems just reaching 155mph so I bet 157mph is top speed.(evil)
 
ELEmental59437 said:
My P5 running 1 bar of boost and no gov topped out at 140 mph, maybe a little higher. your not getting anywhere near 160 in a MS3 IMO

Only if you don't consider 155 close to 160. See Automobile mag where the former editor took it out on the Autobahn. I agree the other figure was in KPH or an absurd exaggeration, kinda like the guy I used to work with when I was a teenager who claimed he'd gone 180 MPH in his RX-2.
 
SeanMSIII said:
Only if you don't consider 155 close to 160. See Automobile mag where the former editor took it out on the Autobahn. I agree the other figure was in KPH or an absurd exaggeration, kinda like the guy I used to work with when I was a teenager who claimed he'd gone 180 MPH in his RX-2.
Yeah 200mph would be incredible to say the least. My guess would be right around 160mph. Even with the limiter you still get up to red line, so removing it only affords you a couple thousand more rpm and the MS3 really drops in power at the higher rpm.
 
i doubt a wagonw ith all the drag it creates would be able to go over 150 without some kind of wind tunnel testing
 
shiiiit I can only hit 110 in my regular 3(dunno) I'd be glad to aleast hit the 130s
 
The most recent car and driver article actually states that the car's top speed is Drag limited. So I highly doubt that it would exceed the claimed 155mph top speed even if there were no governer.
 
I've only had my MS3 up to 135 on a straight country road with not a car in sight. It got up there really quick and was still accelerating fairly hard. I'd say it at least hits 155, maybe 160. No further. I'm sure the 216 claim was kph.
 
This was posted by another member on another thread a while back. Hope this helps.


Gear Ratio/ MPH@1000RPM/ MPH @ redline/ MPH @ 5500RPM
I 3.54/ 5.3/ 36 mph/ 29 mph
II 2.24/ 8.4/ 56 mph/ 46 mph
III 1.54/ 12.2/ 82 mph/ 67 mph
IV 1.17/ 16.0/ 107 mph/ 88 mph
V 1.09/ 20.4/ 136 mph/ 112 mph
VI 0.85/ 25.9/ 174 mph(limited, 155mph)/ 142 mph
 
216 in Europe is Km/h. They don't use mph over there.

155 (250 km/h) in a front wheel driver is insane. The most I've gotten is an indicated 225 km/h just past redline in my Protege (6600 rpm, so unless my tach is over-reading badly, it works out to somewhere between 130-140 mph at the tires).
 
Got her to 142 once, she was steady and had more in her but it was right around 5500 RPMs, which is when the car's power flattens out. That was more than enough for me so I backed off. I'd put top speed at somewhere in the 155-160 range, and I'd be shocked if she got higher than that stock because I think it's an engine limitation (gut feeling, no science behind it). With something that extended the power to higher RPMs I wouldn't be surprised to see it go faster.


*just read MS3-oholic's post, exactly in line with my speed and RPMs.
 
There is a video of a guy on YouTube hitting over 150 in a Speed 3. I had mine up to 135 and it had plenty left. With no gov... sure it would be in the 160's with the right conditions.
 
i had mine go up to 150 on open highway like at 3 oclock at night and it toped at 150 and it was at 6500 rpm does anyone know how to take off the limiter i want more speed
 
What governer? I've had my MS3 up to an indicated 140mph i do 130 squirts quite often.
my understanding the MS3 is DRAG limited. latest mag said 151. Mag before that claimed an indicated 155 (speedo can/will be off)
 
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