hiboost kit

ChrisWinsor said:
ANYONE have a suggestion on what computer to use??? GReddy e-manage???

the e-manage is so difficult to make work with this car it is almost not even an option. the e-manage ultimate does not work on the protege.

juan offers the e6x haltech system which controls fuel and timing, or you can go with a microtech.
 
bazooka joe said:
with the haltech will you be able to pass emmissions tests?

not easily, nor with the microtech. the only two systems which allow one to pass an obd2 test on this car are the mpi tuner and the unichip.
 
I have been running 12lbs on my hiboost kit and stock internals for the past 3 years on 93 octane pump gas...no issues. Ever. My bottom end is now being built by Juan's brother Manuel at TBK down in Miami. I will be running the haltech F10 at 16-18lbs on pump gas when i get it back. Manuel is using the same set up on Superprotege's car as well and he is the only 11 sec car on this forum that I know of. Just giving my two cents. The F10 works. Good luck on your quest.
 
SHAGwagn said:
The F10 works.

i used an f10x as well, actually the first windows based model juan sold as i recall. i agree it works, i just think long term its better for engine longevity and safety to run the E6x or another system that controls timing.

i did not think superprotege was using the f10, i thought it was the e6x
 
Captain KRM P5 said:
i did not think superprotege was using the f10, i thought it was the e6x
i thought he was using the stock timing and he lowered his CR to 8.5:1.
 
With the base kit at 8psi you will definately need to upgrade your clutch. I started slipping the 2nd day.

I have nearly 60k miles on my Hiboost kit with about 30k at 10psi. I will be getting the piston and rod package soon from Juan and most likely go up to about 14-15psi. How will you control timing at 16-18? I have my J&S with the F10 and hopefully will only need to get some larger injectors and maybe a fuel pump and done.


SHAGwagn said:
I have been running 12lbs on my hiboost kit and stock internals for the past 3 years on 93 octane pump gas...no issues. Ever. My bottom end is now being built by Juan's brother Manuel at TBK down in Miami. I will be running the haltech F10 at 16-18lbs on pump gas when i get it back. Manuel is using the same set up on Superprotege's car as well and he is the only 11 sec car on this forum that I know of. Just giving my two cents. The F10 works. Good luck on your quest.
 
Yes superprotege is using an F10X, i have the older DOS F10. He is also using 8.5 CR pistons, not sure if you guys got that when i said im gettin my motor built like his...sorry if i wasnt clear.

Superprotege ran 26lbs on race gas with the F10 and put down a 11.9 timeslip. If you search the threads you will find one where Juan talks about them not having to use the E6X anymore as they once did on their yellow test car becuase the F10 was doing just fine, and the proof is in the pudding...pudding being superproteges car.

How am i going to control timing at that level of boost...I have no idea. Manuel said he can do it so I said ok. i guess its all in the tune. Ill let you know i guess.
 
Superprotege's Ride straght from his profile, and ill ask him again tonight when I talk to him to make sure....im pretty sure though.

Engine Mods: Hiboost Turbo Kit w/FMIC & Haltech F10X, Hiboost Rods & Piston Kit, Eclipse 450cc injectors, Walboro 255 LPH fuel pump, Greddy Type RS BOV, S&R Motorsport JDM Cams and adjustable Cam Gear, B&M Short Throw Shifter, 3"inch down pipe and exhaust, ACT Clutch and Stock Flywheel, VICS & VTCS removed manifold

Appearance: WingsWest Front Bumper, Mazdaspeed Sideskirts, Rearskirts and Rear Wing, Konig Tantrum 17*7 rims and Radio Bezel for A/F and Boost Gauge,Slotted and Crossdrilled Front Rotors.

Suspension: H&R Sports Springs, Mazdaspeed Strut Tower Brace, Mazdaspeed Cryo-Treated Transmission with Quaife LSD, Mazdaspeed Front and Rear Sway Bar, Tokico HP Struts
 
I'm pretty sure we got Hiboosted around the same time I also have the original DOS F10. I was wanting to up my boost as much as I could with the F10 and J&S with 440s and maybe fuel pump and be daily drivable. I think I read where Juan stated the fuel pump was good up to 14psi. I would think with the cam gears he has quite a bit of timing pulled at that boost level. That would be very rough riding trying to cruise daily with my kids in the back. I can have my J&S to where it pulls so much timing per psi once I up the boost.

Your car is looking very sweet with the hood and painted wheels!!

SHAGwagn said:
Yes superprotege is using an F10X, i have the older DOS F10. He is also using 8.5 CR pistons, not sure if you guys got that when i said im gettin my motor built like his...sorry if i wasnt clear.

Superprotege ran 26lbs on race gas with the F10 and put down a 11.9 timeslip. If you search the threads you will find one where Juan talks about them not having to use the E6X anymore as they once did on their yellow test car becuase the F10 was doing just fine, and the proof is in the pudding...pudding being superproteges car.

How am i going to control timing at that level of boost...I have no idea. Manuel said he can do it so I said ok. i guess its all in the tune. Ill let you know i guess.
 
shane02pro5 said:
I'm pretty sure we got Hiboosted around the same time I also have the original DOS F10. I was wanting to up my boost as much as I could with the F10 and J&S with 440s and maybe fuel pump and be daily drivable. I think I read where Juan stated the fuel pump was good up to 14psi. I would think with the cam gears he has quite a bit of timing pulled at that boost level. That would be very rough riding trying to cruise daily with my kids in the back. I can have my J&S to where it pulls so much timing per psi once I up the boost.

Your car is looking very sweet with the hood and painted wheels!!

Yes my friend you are correct, i remember reading a thread you had made when you first got your kit and it was around the same time as mine. This is what i know of for the cam gears...they were adjusted at the dyno once...not something he has messed with alot and that was it. That same setting has been used for 15-17-26 lbs. I have driven his car and have been driven in his car and drives just like my cars does..no issues. So i guess if done right you and your boys would be fine =) Not sure what you were referring too..maybe stalling? Manuel hasnt told me anything about upgrading the pump..as a matter of fact I asked him and he said it would be fine...so well see i guess. What is J&S? O and you will be needing injectors...im gettin 440s on mine as well.
 
With the timing retard I was referring to the throttle being very sensitive and car being very jumpy when trying to ease on or off the pedal at cruising. J&S is a timing control device with knock sensor that retards timing when knock is heard and or set up to retard so much timing per psi. As soon as detonation starts it will save the motor. I have been paranoid since I blew my tranny a while back figuring the motor would have been first, so this was just a $500 insurance policy for the unit to save my motor. Too many horror stories!

Threadjack over!
 
Captain KRM P5 said:
i used an f10x as well, actually the first windows based model juan sold as i recall. i agree it works, i just think long term its better for engine longevity and safety to run the E6x or another system that controls timing.

i did not think superprotege was using the f10, i thought it was the e6x

Nope, superprotege is using the f10.
 
shane02pro5 said:
With the timing retard I was referring to the throttle being very sensitive and car being very jumpy when trying to ease on or off the pedal at cruising. J&S is a timing control device with knock sensor that retards timing when knock is heard and or set up to retard so much timing per psi. As soon as detonation starts it will save the motor. I have been paranoid since I blew my tranny a while back figuring the motor would have been first, so this was just a $500 insurance policy for the unit to save my motor. Too many horror stories!

Threadjack over!
where can u buy the J&S device??... so as i to assume that the F10X is fine??
 
yeah i'de be plenty happy with a 11sec protege
if i bought the complete hiboost kit i would only need a clutch, forged internals, turbo timer, boost controller, but is there a deffinate on the injectors, fuel rail, oe fuel pump (to run boost up around 20psi)??
 
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