Ha, I know exactly what you mean by that. I think it's cool how the suspension reacts.5PADZAM said:Actually, I think it bothers oncoming drivers. I get flashed by a lot of people when driving on the highway with my low beams on. Always have since I bought this car. And the lights are adjusted properly. My theory is that it appears to them that I am flashing my lights at them when my car is reacting to small bumps in the road, and the non-existant cutoff of my lights appears to be moving up and down, making it appear that I am flashing my lights.
TheMAN said:here's what GOOD headlights are supposed to be:
1st pic... my headlights using osram hyper 65/70 watt bulbs
2nd pic... european "P5" H7 headlights (stock bulbs).. something we should've got to begin with!
Dim said:Is the first pic a P5? More importantly, is that the H7 Hyper "Race" bulb made by Osram?
Dim said:BTW, I have NO cutoff at all. Even with the brightest of bulbs (Osram Silverstar) it's not noticeable.
TheMAN said:my headlights using osram hyper 65/70 watt bulbs
TheMAN said:here's what GOOD headlights are supposed to be:
1st pic... my headlights using osram hyper 65/70 watt bulbs
2nd pic... european "P5" H7 headlights (stock bulbs).. something we should've got to begin with!
JoshP5 said:Edwin, are you running those (slightly overwattage) bulbs off the stock wiring harness or did you install a relay kit?
Kansei said:hmmm! that confirms my suspicions that the JDM/EDM headlights that look just like the USDM Protege5 headlights are in fact better. Do you know if it's just a different cap thing in front of the bulb or a totally different reflector?
TheMAN said:different reflector
nothing to suspect with the EDM headlights to begin with! they are required to have that form of beam pattern from the headlights! the USDM s*** was created purely for marketing reasons because there was a fair amount of people bitching about the sharp cutoff in some headlights (such as the sedan ones)
the high beams are also better... it uses an H1 bulb instead... what's cooler is, it has a city light (parking light) inside the high beam reflector area because using amber parking lights (especially in combination with the turn signal) is illegal outside of north america
I'd still love to get my hands on those black (03 only) headlights... but damn are they ******* expensive (due to the manual leveling motors built in also)!
TheMAN said:different reflector
nothing to suspect with the EDM headlights to begin with! they are required to have that form of beam pattern from the headlights! the USDM s*** was created purely for marketing reasons because there was a fair amount of people bitching about the sharp cutoff in some headlights (such as the sedan ones)
the high beams are also better... it uses an H1 bulb instead... what's cooler is, it has a city light (parking light) inside the high beam reflector area because using amber parking lights (especially in combination with the turn signal) is illegal outside of north america
I'd still love to get my hands on those black (03 only) headlights... but damn are they ******* expensive (due to the manual leveling motors built in also)!
Kansei said:Are there EDM headlights without the leveling motors? I understand the purpose of the motors, but 800 a piece for headlights is nearly twice the retail price for the canadian headlights, that's hard to justify since we're talkin more than 4x the cost of the usdm headlights.
I did know about the city lights, that's really pimp. So on the euro lights there's a white city light, and the amber only comes on for turn signal (probably a single filament bulb)? Very interesting indeed. I wanted to get some LED cluster retrofits I saw before that did a white light and amber for turn signal.. would achieve pretty much the same effect but would just use the turn signal location in the headlight to do it.
If there was a way to source just the reflectors that would be so uber awesome, but I wouldn't expect that level of parts granularity from any car company.
Kansei said:argh I'd write a letter to my senators but there are more pressing issues in this nation right now.
I still wonder why the US lighting laws are so lazy, why didn't they follow suit when Europe tightened up regulations?
can someone post a pic of the p5 with HIDs. are getting HIDs useless w/o modifying them to be projectors?
OKay, but I have silverstar's in my P5 and they light up perfectly (no cut off like i want, but very nice lightage) but when i turn my brights on it's up in the trees.