FREE MPI help!

[Bigg Tim]

I read the cd set up and it looks hard how often do you find yourself changing your map? how did you find a good base map to start of with because that stuff had me feeling like i was in a math class!
I don't have a mpi or MAM SS yet but hope to get mines later this month.

Stereo instructions suck too, but it's not that bad. If you want something you don't have to tune, then it's not for you. But when you do tune it right, you will not have to touch it. This pigyback has made as much, if not more, then a 2-3 times the cost standalone that will not pass emissions. Anyone's map may work as a BASE map only, but you should always tune it to your application. When apocman and his crew in TX finish with their installs, we will have a pretty detailed tuning instruction document for newb's. He is going to make a kick as manual.

I can get a decent tune on a car in 15-20 minutes. That will be a slightly rich tune that is not fine tuned. The fine tuning will take a little more time, but when it's done you will be VERY happy. The key is to have your car working right before you use the MPI, not OK but right! It's a piggyback and only works as good as the stock ECU is. That means no CEL's, vacuum leaks, you need both O2's and anything else to have the car running like stock.

I do all of my tuning on the road and I have over 30 dyno pulls and I have ONLY picked up a MAX of 5 peak hp. So road tuning is a cheap way of tuning and pretty accurate.

 

[Killer 8]

There are a lot of people on here that have a map that would probably work to get you started. Since you have a DX, My map will probably help get you started with your SS and MPI. I will adjust it for you to start out in case you don't have extra injectors like i do.

I won't be running any extra injectors just got the fsze cams but help with the map will be very helpful

 

[Killer 8]

Stereo instructions suck too, but it's not that bad. If you want something you don't have to tune, then it's not for you. But when you do tune it right, you will not have to touch it. This pigyback has made as much, if not more, then a 2-3 times the cost standalone that will not pass emissions. Anyone's map may work as a BASE map only, but you should always tune it to your application. When apocman and his crew in TX finish with their installs, we will have a pretty detailed tuning instruction document for newb's. He is going to make a kick as manual.

I can get a decent tune on a car in 15-20 minutes. That will be a slightly rich tune that is not fine tuned. The fine tuning will take a little more time, but when it's done you will be VERY happy. The key is to have your car working right before you use the MPI, not OK but right! It's a piggyback and only works as good as the stock ECU is. That means no CEL's, vacuum leaks, you need both O2's and anything else to have the car running like stock.

I do all of my tuning on the road and I have over 30 dyno pulls and I have ONLY picked up a MAX of 5 peak hp. So road tuning is a cheap way of tuning and pretty accurate.

I don't mind tuning but i just want to make sure i can understand how to do it in a safe way without messing the engine up. I'm pretty sure that I'll get use to it once i have more time to learn it better. I guess I'm just a little worried cuz this would be the first time doing anything like this to my car. I do wish tuning was as easy as NFS2 but as long as i get them gains I'll do the homework.

 

[Bigg Tim]

I don't mind tuning but i just want to make sure i can understand how to do it in a safe way without messing the engine up. I'm pretty sure that I'll get use to it once i have more time to learn it better. I guess I'm just a little worried cuz this would be the first time doing anything like this to my car. I do wish tuning was as easy as NFS2 but as long as i get them gains I'll do the homework.

Yeah, it's not that bad once ou learn it. Some people get it quicker then others. You will definatly see gains when your car is tuned right.

 

[Jeph]

I read the manual from the cd too, and it was they make it sound so much more difficult than it is. Best thing I can recommend you do is load the software onto the computer and get familiar with it before your install. You can load some of the datalogs that are posted on the forum, and get a feel for what its going to look like when you're tuning.
My car runs so great right now, I have a bad O2 sensor right now, but because of my wideband I am still able to tune. Without that O2 sensor problem I wouldn't even have a CEL or anything.

 

[wicked]

why can't I play any datalogs?
do I have to have my MPI plugged in?
I have data logs saved of mine,and fellow members,and need to review then,so I have then saved,and in the correct spot,but after I load then I hit play,and nothing happens.

BTW,when MPI isn't plugged in none of my comm ports work,I assume it's sopposed to be that way since I have nothing comunicating to the MPI,right?

 

[Jeph]

Change the comm port to one where it doesn't give you the error, then you'll be able to play them

 

[wicked]

ok,then I better use an imaginary one,jk,but really all of them do it,on all of my computers

 

[Jeph]

Mine did the same thing when i tried to play my datalogs, but when i changed the comm port to 3 it didn't give me the error message and i was able to play the datalogs even though i know it isn't a valid port.

 

[Bigg Tim]

You shouldn't have to change comm port numbers to view logs. You shouldbe able to just load them and play them without the MPI being hooked up.

Jeph--if you had that problem, then it is something with your SW on your computer because I played yours fine on my computer. Maybe it has something to do with conflicts or just the USB adaptor.

 

[Jeph]

It could be the USB adaptor, before mine only played when the car was on and the usb was plugged in. Then when i unplugged it they wouldn't play because it gave me an "invalid commport" or some kind of error. Then someone mentioned that i should just choose the comm port that doesn't give me that error when i am replaying them and its not plugged in. Since then i've been fine, and my cars running great

 

[Crazee D]

install and plenty of N/A questions pending....TBA

 

[wicked]

I am not able to view datalogs on any of the computers in my home,5 all together,they all give me the invalid port BS,no matter what port I choose.

 

[terbow]

You shouldn't have to change comm port numbers to view logs. You shouldbe able to just load them and play them without the MPI being hooked up.

Jeph--if you had that problem, then it is something with your SW on your computer because I played yours fine on my computer. Maybe it has something to do with conflicts or just the USB adaptor.

if the mpi loads and says "invalid comport" then they will not play. you need to find one thats open and doesnt say its invalid when you choose it. you can reload the software a million times. you need one the mpi sees as an open port. wickeds all say invalid so he either needs to take whatever devices that are on 1-4 to 6- whatever or hook it to the mpi.

pick a port that says invalid when u pick it in tools and then tell me if u can run a datalog. i bet u cant. and if u can u have a super pc cause not a single one ive used will if it says its invalid. its a quirk u have to work around i guess.

 

[terbow]

I am not able to view datalogs on any of the computers in my home,5 all together,they all give me the invalid port BS,no matter what port I choose.

go into device manager and see if theres any devices u can move from com port 1-4 to 6 or above. that will free one.

 

[ebmp5]

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[Bigg Tim]

Terbow--I sent his logs to Nick and we do not get an invalid port error? I get a box that it is trying to communicate to the MPI, when it should not. I have NO other ports being used in the 1 to 4 range and no conflicts. When Nick tried to view it, it played nothing so it's kinda wierd. I'll go in again and move things around, but I know it won't work because for some reason it is trying to communicate with the MPI during playback mode when it should not.

 

[wicked]

I tried to view a log from terbow,and not only were all ports invalid,but I was able to load his log,when I hit play,it wouldn't.

 

[bazooka joe]

tony, lookin forward to hookin up with you when i get back! i think a few tweaks here and there and i can get this thing runnin real well...i've adjusted my sw point several times and it still dumps fuel before i hit boost...anyway, i'm confident we can get this cleared up...i just need someone who knows the software and can show me what i've been doing wrong. thanks to tim for getting me going and getting the car driveable!!

 

[apocman]

ok sorry, I have not been on in a while. We have the installed Moeed's MSP turbo setup using the stock turbo MPNick did for us and it ******* is awesome!!! Ok, we didn't get to record the install, but we are going to set down in a classroom setting and break down the install and every single option, setting and screen in the MPI software. We will be explaining in extreme detail what every thing does and how to use it. We will also break it down to lamens terms, so everyone can understanding the MPI and tuning a car in general.

BTW, I blew my engine!!!

let me explain first before you run in terror!

I have a brand new built engine setting in my garage basically ready to go in and with all of the other memebers cars and such that needed tuning and installing etc. I never retuned the MPI for my new BADASS MPNick turbo upgrade and ION 3" turbo back exhuast... including adjusting my EBC to work with the new setup....

Anyway, I was taking someone for test ride in my car and it was really cold out...

So I kick it down the access road along the freeway to show what spicy can do and my ******* car shot down the street like a ******* missle. MY CAR LEPT LIKE A ******* RABID TIGER ON CRACK AND STARVED FOR THREE WEEKS AND JUST CAME ACROSS A FAT ASS ELK!!!

IT WAS SO ******* AWESOME, IT WAS LIKE CRACK FOR CAR JUNKIES!!!!!!

i ******* LOVED IT !!!!!

Anyhoo, I got it up to 16.9psi and it was so ******* fast then I shot down the street agian and Spicy ******* seemd like it jumped in the air agian going straight foward and took off to the point I was really thrown back in my seat and when that happened my foot shot forward on the gas instead of the clutch and I hit i think around 19psi or greater and my car went "poot" like a nun-fart and it then died and when I restarted it it sounded just like a helicopter, but put that ******* helicopter next to your ear and so I limped spicy home and it had blown a ring...

So now she shall reappear hopefully by next week has FRANKEN-SPICY

with her newly built engine, just have to make some modifications and run her at low boost until I can get MPNick to make me some pretty forged rods and pistons and then I'm going to go ******* boost crazy agian, but forged and then I'm sure I will eat my tranny and have to beg MPNick to build me a bad ass daddy tranny and then I'm ******* going to be so ******* fast and boosted at such unglody PSI's that the world will run in ******* terror!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MUHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

Apoc quickly cuts his eyes from side to side while perched on the bathroom sink in his undies thinking to himself "Yes, OH, Yesssssssss! one day those evil SRT's and other fast cars will pay!!!"

Apoc turns in badass Matrix style flipping from his perch landing kickass style and runs off into the night with his cape masking his identity (which he borrowed from his 5 yr old son, shhh!! don't tell him!)

Ok, back to the real world...

anyway lessons learned: tune your s*** after new parts installed and re'adjust your boost controller setting to compensate for the new parts and high amounts boost are unexplainably addicting and better than sex and take in consideration for the colder weather....

AHHHH, what fun it is to have the opportunity to do this type of stuff!!!