Evo gets *****!!

[QwikSRT4]

I think the video was meant to be viewed by us fellow SRT-4 owners, therefore no need to bore us. We know what our engine bay looks like. Notice it was cross-posted.

 

[Kooldino]

That evo seemed slow for some reason...someting wasn't right.

 

[loj68]

yeah...I'm not saying SRT's aren't fast....I'm not even saying they might not beat an EVO in the right conditions....I'm just saying it wouldn't be THAT bad like in the vid. I found the #'s below from Sport Compact Car's website where they tested both cars.....their measurements show they are pretty evenly matched.....more evenly than I thought for sure.

EVO VIII

Performance
Acceleration
Quarter Mile time @ speed: 13.4 sec. @ 103 mph
0-30 mph: 1.7 sec.
0-60 mph: 5.3 sec.
30-50 mph: 2.1 sec.
50-70 mph: 2.9 sec.

Claimed Crank Hp: 271 hp @ 6500 rpm
Claimed Crank Torque: 273 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Measured Wheel Hp: 233 hp @ 5800 rpm
Measured Wheel Torque: 252 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm

SRT-4

Performance
Acceleration
0-30 mph : 2.5 sec.
0-60 mph : 5.8 sec.
30-50 mph : 2.0 sec.
50-70 mph : 3.0 sec.
Quarter Mile : 14.2 sec. @ 99.5 mph

Manufacturer's Claimed Horsepower : 215 hp @ 5400 rpm
Manufacturer's Claimed Torque : 245 lb-ft @ 2000 rpm
HPas measured at the wheels : 223 hp @ 5600 rpm
Torque as measured at the wheels : 250 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm

 

[boostisgood]

yeah...I'm not saying SRT's aren't fast....I'm not even saying they might not beat an EVO in the right conditions....I'm just saying it wouldn't be THAT bad like in the vid. I found the #'s below from Sport Compact Car's website where they tested both cars.....their measurements show they are pretty evenly matched.....more evenly than I thought for sure.

EVO VIII

Performance
Acceleration
Quarter Mile time @ speed: 13.4 sec. @ 103 mph
0-30 mph: 1.7 sec.
0-60 mph: 5.3 sec.
30-50 mph: 2.1 sec.
50-70 mph: 2.9 sec.

Claimed Crank Hp: 271 hp @ 6500 rpm
Claimed Crank Torque: 273 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Measured Wheel Hp: 233 hp @ 5800 rpm
Measured Wheel Torque: 252 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm

SRT-4

Performance
Acceleration
0-30 mph : 2.5 sec.
0-60 mph : 5.8 sec.
30-50 mph : 2.0 sec.
50-70 mph : 3.0 sec.
Quarter Mile : 14.2 sec. @ 99.5 mph

Manufacturer's Claimed Horsepower : 215 hp @ 5400 rpm
Manufacturer's Claimed Torque : 245 lb-ft @ 2000 rpm
HPas measured at the wheels : 223 hp @ 5600 rpm
Torque as measured at the wheels : 250 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm

As you have just POINTED out, the measured hp and torwue ARE higher on the SRT then the EVO. so a 270 claimed hp gain by the stage 1 kit, would easily equate to 300 WHP. thanks for proving MY point.

Not trying to flame bro, just stating, dont hate on the SRT-4. It is a great car, for what it was built for. I know of a great suspension company that is developing a kick ass coilover kit for it, and the evo, msp, hell a frikin DTM tuned bimmer wont outhandle the SRT after that.

 

[loj68]

I think the moral of the story is that you can mod anything to beat a stock anything else.....and a fast anything else can be a slow POS anything else if a crap driver is behind the wheel.

 

[1sty]

I think the moral of the story is that you can mod anything to beat a stock anything else.....and a fast anything else can be a slow POS anything else if a crap driver is behind the wheel.

So what was proved here?
(crazy)

 

[redrims]

I'm going off published HP numbers so I do know what the **** I'm talking about....I didn't pick those #'s out of the sky......whatever people say is "underrated" or "overrated" is a matter of different dyno's in different coniditions....I'm just going by what is in print. BTW if a Stage 2 SRT is 270 at the crank then the wheel HP wouldn't be 300....it would be much less. Besides all that, I agree that it's all technique as stated above......if that guy in the EVO had even half a clue how to drive, even a heavily modded Peon wouldn't walk away so easily. 99% of people who buy cars don't have a clue about shift points, revs, power bands, etc. and judging by the fact that the guy had to be bribed with gas $ to roll, he's probably another dumbass 20 something whou bought something he can't afford.....or drive good. Car and Driver (or was it Road and Track) just did a comparo pitting the EVO against a new 911 Turbo and they were dead nuts. The guy in that vid was definitely a bog-master.

Here you go HATER, becaust that's what you are. A genuine HATER....

Stock EVO dyno
Stock SRT dyno

 

[redrims]

Also, the Evo is fast, but those times u read about in magazines are NOT rolling starts... they have to rev the hell out of it and beat the crap out of the clutch to get it to launch with some wheelspin. They even say during the testing that you will not duplicate these numbers if you are making the car payment, its just too hard on the car. Car and Driver does a rolling start acceleration test, 5-60. Its supposed to be a better representation of what the car will do in the real world. I tried to get the numbers but they are not listed online and I dont have the magazine in front of me, but if I remember correctly, the 0-60 with the clutch-frying launch was like 5.1 sec, and the 5-60 street start with no clutch frying was over 7 sec, like 7.1 or 7.3.

With 19psi and all wheel drive, without the boost up, the acceleration is going to be slow until it picks up. That is enough to give the SRT-4 the edge it needed.

Yeh, I read that also, but I don't have the magazine on me either.

 

[SnowSerpent]

I've seen a 92-95 Civic Hatchback beat a Lancer Evo twice. The guy in the Civic didn't tell what's under the hood.

 

[Blown]

Apples vs oranges. No comparision. The SRT-4 appears fast(over-exagerated if you ask me) in the video but remember it's modded. The Evo is bone stock, I wonder how fast a slighty modded Evo would do?

 

[loj68]

Here you go HATER, becaust that's what you are. A genuine HATER....

WRONG!!!!.......Not sure where you get that from but you obviously didn't read my posts.....I didn't put the Neon down and have admitted that it's fast...even posted info saying so....I'm justy saying it's not THAT fast that an EVO looks like a '72 Pinto hittin' on 3 cylinders next to it.

 

[QwikSRT4]

Apples vs oranges. No comparision. The SRT-4 appears fast(over-exagerated if you ask me) in the video but remember it's modded. The Evo is bone stock, I wonder how fast a slighty modded Evo would do?

The way I look at this is look what us SRT's can do with the $10+K we saved by not getting an Evo...

 

[Karl Marx]

Qwik SRT, spend it on a new body for the car maybe?

Sorry.. i sometimes find myself funny.

 

[Blown]

I wonder what slighty-modify entails. Just watching that video leads me to believe that the SRT-4 is more than just slighty modified. Impressive none the less.

 

[QwikSRT4]

Nah it's funnier to beat people in a 'ugly-ass Neon.'

 

[loj68]

why is a Neon guy on this forum anyways? Reminds of all the Ducati guys who used to come talk smack on the Aprilia forums.....I don't get it.

 

[1sty]

loj68


Careful there!
Qwik has proven to be an impartial and cool guy. Most of us respect his opinion. We tend to like all people and cars to be welcome. Except cavaliers ofcoarse!


Sorry had to put some funny back into it.

Is this thread over yet?

 

[sundevilMP5]

why is a Neon guy on this forum anyways? Reminds of all the Ducati guys who used to come talk smack on the Aprilia forums.....I don't get it.

i would think of that more as italian pride...lol

mmmmm...ducati...mmmmm...aprilia...

 

[loj68]

I'm not dissin'.....just asking why. I guess I've never felt the need to go over to SE-R forums or Focus forums and talk smack.....there's nothing there I wanna read about. Not to mention I don't have one of their cars so I wouldn't have any input.

 

[1sty]

I'm not dissin'.....just asking why. I guess I've never felt the need to go over to SE-R forums or Focus forums and talk smack.....there's nothing there I wanna read about. Not to mention I don't have one of their cars so I wouldn't have any input.

My mistake.

His wifey owns a MSP. He likes us better then the dodge boards i guess.

Damn dud now that i think of it, talk about cool parents.
My father had a 2 year old legend sedan and my mother had a GIANT station wagon.