Build your Dream MSP

[apocman]

Ok, I've have not been around in a long time, but I may be getting my spicy MSP back in Feb. For those that do not know me I am Yashooa's brother and he has a black MSP and he has been on the forum for a while.

I sold my MSP becuase I owned a few sport bike GSXR, Ninja's etc... Anyway, I sold my sportbikes and got a crusier. Well something clicked in me; (I knew I had to sell the sportbikes becuase I would always do 175mph+ when ever possible On back roads, late at night on deserted freeways etc and I felt my day was coming) that is not a good feeling to have with a wife and two kids...

Well the guy I sold my MSP to might return it to me in Feb. if he does I will want to spend some money tricking it out.

So here is the question! if you could build your version of the perfect MSP what would you do and how, IN DETAIL!!! I'm am looking for ideas and if you are not specific then it is of no use... (include pricing and end result gains, if possible)

P.S. I apologize in advance for not searching this topic out!!!

 

[daedalus]

Engine:
MAM Shortblock w/ 8:1 Compression - 3650.00 w/core charge and shipping
GHL 3" Turboback Exhaust - 1200.00
Perrin FMIC w/Greddy Type S BOV - 1330.00
Perrin SRI - 196.00
Garret GT3071R - 1300.00

This engine would be able to support huge amounts of boost safely. The ideal engine setup for me is something that doesnt have the highest HP output, but something that can put power to the ground efficently, and effectivly. On my personal car, I have chosen to leave the stock turbo b/c I dont want to risk damage to CV joints, driveshafts, etc, and I dont think I could actually use that much power effectivly on the track (roadcourse, autoX).

Engine Management
DSM AFC Controller - 295.00
or
Microtech Stand Alone - 1100-1300

For up to 10psi (until new maps released) I think the DSM AFC is a great unit (though i dont own one yet) and probably a good starting point. Until the microtech unit is released early next year I dont know of a better EM solution for under 2grand.

Suspension
KW Varient 2 - 1395.00
StopTech Brakes - 1795.00
AutoEXE Front Strut Bar - 375.00
All the GT Spec Bars - 1000.00+

No one makes better suspension for our car (IMHO) than KW. All of their stuff is quite literally the best stuff I have seen, and I think gives you better performance than that of the JIC FLT-A2's for a nice discount. In terms of brakes, well, you said dream MSP right? I mean, slotted rotors, and new pads would probably be enough, but for hardcore tracking like I intend to do, I could surley put some stoptechs to good, actual use.

Wheels
Street: 18 X 7.5 +48mm Axis Hiro w/ Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
Track: Ehhh, something small and really light

The street setup, well, would look friggin badass and the tires last for a really long time, while still providing kickass handling, but you might need to roll the fenders? As for track, something either 16" or maybe 17" (Depending on weight) with really sticky tires

Exterior
Procarparts.com Headlights - 143.86
4300K HID Conversion - 450.00
DGM Front Grille - 200.00?
DGM CF Hood Painted to match car - 500.00

Not much needed here, I think the 03.5's looks dead sexy, but the hood does have a functional air scoop that the SRI could take advantage of. The headlights clean it up a little bit, and the front grille makes a nice, clean statement. Nothing ricy here.

Interior
Defi BF Amber Gauges
Alpine IVA-D900 HU
Sparco EVO seats (They have yellow stiching)
Sparco Harnesses

Clean, subtle, and functional. Maybe a nice sparco quick release steering wheel b/c I love to drive any car with one of those bad boys. So much more feel and control!


DID I ADD ENOUGH DETAIL? (boom04)

 

[apocman]

Engine:
MAM Shortblock w/ 8:1 Compression - 3650.00 w/core charge and shipping
GHL 3" Turboback Exhaust - 1200.00
Perrin FMIC w/Greddy Type S BOV - 1330.00
Perrin SRI - 196.00
Garret GT3071R - 1300.00

This engine would be able to support huge amounts of boost safely. The ideal engine setup for me is something that doesnt have the highest HP output, but something that can put power to the ground efficently, and effectivly. On my personal car, I have chosen to leave the stock turbo b/c I dont want to risk damage to CV joints, driveshafts, etc, and I dont think I could actually use that much power effectivly on the track (roadcourse, autoX).

Engine Management
DSM AFC Controller - 295.00
or
Microtech Stand Alone - 1100-1300

For up to 10psi (until new maps released) I think the DSM AFC is a great unit (though i dont own one yet) and probably a good starting point. Until the microtech unit is released early next year I dont know of a better EM solution for under 2grand.

Suspension
KW Varient 2 - 1395.00
StopTech Brakes - 1795.00
AutoEXE Front Strut Bar - 375.00
All the GT Spec Bars - 1000.00+

No one makes better suspension for our car (IMHO) than KW. All of their stuff is quite literally the best stuff I have seen, and I think gives you better performance than that of the JIC FLT-A2's for a nice discount. In terms of brakes, well, you said dream MSP right? I mean, slotted rotors, and new pads would probably be enough, but for hardcore tracking like I intend to do, I could surley put some stoptechs to good, actual use.

Wheels
Street: 18 X 7.5 +48mm Axis Hiro w/ Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
Track: Ehhh, something small and really light

The street setup, well, would look friggin badass and the tires last for a really long time, while still providing kickass handling, but you might need to roll the fenders? As for track, something either 16" or maybe 17" (Depending on weight) with really sticky tires

Exterior
Procarparts.com Headlights - 143.86
4300K HID Conversion - 450.00
DGM Front Grille - 200.00?
DGM CF Hood Painted to match car - 500.00

Not much needed here, I think the 03.5's looks dead sexy, but the hood does have a functional air scoop that the SRI could take advantage of. The headlights clean it up a little bit, and the front grille makes a nice, clean statement. Nothing ricy here.

Interior
Defi BF Amber Gauges
Alpine IVA-D900 HU
Sparco EVO seats (They have yellow stiching)
Sparco Harnesses

Clean, subtle, and functional. Maybe a nice sparco quick release steering wheel b/c I love to drive any car with one of those bad boys. So much more feel and control!


DID I ADD ENOUGH DETAIL? (boom04)

(bow) (cool) (thumb) (nana) (yippy) Now, where did I bury that drug money I had from smuggling for the cartel!!! (uhm) (scratch)

 

[mspdfreak]

Engine:
MAM Shortblock w/ 8:1 Compression - 3650.00 w/core charge and shipping
GHL 3" Turboback Exhaust - 1200.00
Perrin FMIC w/Greddy Type S BOV - 1330.00
Perrin SRI - 196.00
Garret GT3071R - 1300.00

This engine would be able to support huge amounts of boost safely. The ideal engine setup for me is something that doesnt have the highest HP output, but something that can put power to the ground efficently, and effectivly. On my personal car, I have chosen to leave the stock turbo b/c I dont want to risk damage to CV joints, driveshafts, etc, and I dont think I could actually use that much power effectivly on the track (roadcourse, autoX).

Engine Management
DSM AFC Controller - 295.00
or
Microtech Stand Alone - 1100-1300

For up to 10psi (until new maps released) I think the DSM AFC is a great unit (though i dont own one yet) and probably a good starting point. Until the microtech unit is released early next year I dont know of a better EM solution for under 2grand.

Suspension
KW Varient 2 - 1395.00
StopTech Brakes - 1795.00
AutoEXE Front Strut Bar - 375.00
All the GT Spec Bars - 1000.00+

No one makes better suspension for our car (IMHO) than KW. All of their stuff is quite literally the best stuff I have seen, and I think gives you better performance than that of the JIC FLT-A2's for a nice discount. In terms of brakes, well, you said dream MSP right? I mean, slotted rotors, and new pads would probably be enough, but for hardcore tracking like I intend to do, I could surley put some stoptechs to good, actual use.

Wheels
Street: 18 X 7.5 +48mm Axis Hiro w/ Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
Track: Ehhh, something small and really light

The street setup, well, would look friggin badass and the tires last for a really long time, while still providing kickass handling, but you might need to roll the fenders? As for track, something either 16" or maybe 17" (Depending on weight) with really sticky tires

Exterior
Procarparts.com Headlights - 143.86
4300K HID Conversion - 450.00
DGM Front Grille - 200.00?
DGM CF Hood Painted to match car - 500.00

Not much needed here, I think the 03.5's looks dead sexy, but the hood does have a functional air scoop that the SRI could take advantage of. The headlights clean it up a little bit, and the front grille makes a nice, clean statement. Nothing ricy here.

Interior
Defi BF Amber Gauges
Alpine IVA-D900 HU
Sparco EVO seats (They have yellow stiching)
Sparco Harnesses

Clean, subtle, and functional. Maybe a nice sparco quick release steering wheel b/c I love to drive any car with one of those bad boys. So much more feel and control!


DID I ADD ENOUGH DETAIL? (boom04)

Lol, that's $16,000 in mods alone. I think I'd just buy an sTi and be done with it.

 

[seatbackfurther]

Engine:
Garret GT3071R - 1300.00

You'll also need a manifold...

Engine Management
DSM AFC Controller - 295.00
or
Microtech Stand Alone - 1100-1300

An afc alone wouldn't cut what you had for plans..

 

[seatbackfurther]

Lol, that's $16,000 in mods alone. I think I'd just buy an sTi and be done with it.

What are you saying it's not worth it? I thought everyone wanted to drop 16g on there msp?(hump)

 

[YuYuRena]

Lol, that's $16,000 in mods alone. I think I'd just buy an sTi and be done with it.

And start all over with the suspension, since STi suspension is more rally prepped than track.

Dream MSP - Upgraded IC, exhaust, cams, flywheel, ecu, head works, relocating the stock air intake position, tires, radiator, brake. My dream MSP is about 220~230 bhp at flywheel (all top end power), with the same balance. Our engine is very torquey design, that runs out of breath at high rev. I just want to improve our top end tq band aka make it flatter.

 

[daedalus]

You'll also need a manifold...

An afc alone wouldn't cut what you had for plans..

The turbo will bolt up to the stock manifold... But if there was a good tubular being produced I would rock it. That and a sheetmetal intake manifold! And for that I am well aware an AFC wont do, but as I stated, I was keeping the stock turbo for the time being b/c I only am shooting for about 250hp. (rockon)

Peace dudes.

 

[RyanJayG]

The turbo will bolt up to the stock manifold... But if there was a good tubular being produced I would rock it. That and a sheetmetal intake manifold! And for that I am well aware an AFC wont do, but as I stated, I was keeping the stock turbo for the time being b/c I only am shooting for about 250hp. (rockon)

Peace dudes.

what, you mean like this one? http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1402251&postcount=106

also to mate up a GT3071 you'd have to get the ATP turbo GT3071-WG http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=GRT-TBO-026&Category_Code=GRT which is really just a hybrid built to mimic the real GT3071 with a T25 turbine housing/flange.. but yeah, the GT3071-WG will bolt up to it, however I think it'd hit your block with the stock MSP location

 

[JDM Sam]

Come meet the DFW people then decide.

 

[sickspeed94]

what, you mean like this one? http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1402251&postcount=106

OMFG! 'nuff said

 

[mazdaspeedpower]

well, it'd go something like this for me....Mam Thumper kit, Oliver Rods and Pistons, Beefyier Axels, I'm gonna have to agree with Deadalus and get every suspension part made for the speed by KWand fill in the rest with the GT spec stuff(good link bars and s***), AEM(i dunno that ECU thing for our cars thats supposed to be so great)or the MPI unit, Spec Stage 5 Clutch, Qaife LSD, VIS CF Evo Hood, Rota Slipstreams on Toyo Proxes, Mazdaspeed intake/exhaust cams, MAM fuel 1,2,3 rail upgrades, Steel Braided Brake lines, Brembos(brakes), Kartboy SS and Bushings, Ported intake/exhaust ports and throttle body(ported plus larger throttle body), NX ntercooler, Bride seats and harnesses, AWR Motor Mounts, AUTo EXE earth ground system, AWR performance radiator, Begi Fuel Pump(or the HR Nipondenso fuel pump), Adjustable Cam Gears(srmotorsports has them), Eibach EVS Spring kit(valve springs) and titanium valves, Magnecore wires, HKS iridiums, Sport 20 HID lights, Clarion VRX935VD(DVD with 7inch LCD) complete it with a sirius tuner, JL ZR Components(Complete with e1400D amp to power(x)2 one front, one back), Two JL 13w7's with Two 1000/1 amps(one for each) complete in two sealed bozes in rear corners of trunk, with amps mount in two front corners(not flashy like, just simple, not show winning)...Well, thats all I can think of off the top of my head(had to search for those JL specs though)...I know it sounbds outlandish, but it'd be nice to go through all the PITA to do a sport20 AWD system, but I doubt that'd work with this car..heh.

EDIT* Rota Slipstream instead, now insert Rays Gram Lights, 57P in gunmetal.

 

[mazdaspeedpower]

I'm forgetting some small things here, but don't worry about it.

 

[RyanJayG]

my dream protege, er. I guess MP3 is a MAM block, oliver Rods, CP pistons, Toga bearings with techline dry film coating, cometic HG,ported intake mani and head, Thumper kit with GT3071, MAM billet fuel rail, stage 3, Tein SS coilovers, GT spec strut bar, Spec stage 3 clutch, MAM billet shift forks, and forged 3rd-5th gear sets, heavy duty axles (not from drive shaft shop, yuck)

well, it looks like I already have 90% of it.... I'm well on my way

 

[MazdaSpeed0020]

God I feel like such a noob for asking this, but what does bhp mean? Dont be too rough on me either please. Sorry for the thread jack.

Matt

 

[RyanJayG]

Brake HorsePower: [font=verdana, geneva, helvetica]Definition: The measure of an engine's horsepower without the loss in power caused by the gearbox, generator, differential, water pump and other auxiliaries.


basically, HP measured at the flywheel
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[CarlM2]

My 'dream MSP' will vary greatly from others because I want to maintain the fun value that drew me to it in the first place.
The only engine upgrades I have planned are: (not in order)
DSM's Hardpipes $200
DSM's AFC $300
Jspec SMIC $600
Jspec J-pipe $300
Stock boost
Greddy or HKS BOV (?)

Interior:
DIN panel with VDO gauges, turbo, volt, and oil pressure $150
Radar dectector
Some sound deadening material

Exterior:
New, lighter wheels (Kosei TS 17x7 42mm offset) stick with stock size tires or go with 50mm offset and 225/40's. Or get another light wheel w/ 45mm offset and you'll have more tire size choices. $1200

Misc.:
Replace trans fluid with Royal Purple Pro-gear, Redline, or Syncromesh...
Synthetic Oil

That's about it for me. I like the suspension as-is except for the squeeky bushings. So, there... for under 3,k I have a nice conservatively upgraded car that is like it should have been from the factory... with a little more power, better fuel economy and better handling.... oh, and a reliable setup that lets me drive it every day rain, shine or whatever without complaining.

If you go with one of the ultra-mod Fast and Furious situations with new rods/pistons, 5,000 psi boost, NO2, etc... you'll need a new transmission, axles, joints, differential, etc.

 

[apocman]

My 'dream MSP' will vary greatly from others because I want to maintain the fun value that drew me to it in the first place.
The only engine upgrades I have planned are: (not in order)
DSM's Hardpipes $200
DSM's AFC $300
Jspec SMIC $600
Jspec J-pipe $300
Stock boost
Greddy or HKS BOV (?)

Interior:
DIN panel with VDO gauges, turbo, volt, and oil pressure $150
Radar dectector
Some sound deadening material

Exterior:
New, lighter wheels (Kosei TS 17x7 42mm offset) stick with stock size tires or go with 50mm offset and 225/40's. Or get another light wheel w/ 45mm offset and you'll have more tire size choices. $1200

Misc.:
Replace trans fluid with Royal Purple Pro-gear, Redline, or Syncromesh...
Synthetic Oil

That's about it for me. I like the suspension as-is except for the squeeky bushings. So, there... for under 3,k I have a nice conservatively upgraded car that is like it should have been from the factory... with a little more power, better fuel economy and better handling.... oh, and a reliable setup that lets me drive it every day rain, shine or whatever without complaining.

If you go with one of the ultra-mod Fast and Furious situations with new rods/pistons, 5,000 psi boost, NO2, etc... you'll need a new transmission, axles, joints, differential, etc.

I like this one except I would keep same rims and tires. I like it becuase it is cheap, but add's some fun to the car...(cool)

 

[TX Speed Demon]

Interior:
DIN panel with VDO gauges, turbo, volt, and oil pressure $150

I would suggest a different oil pressure gauge. The VDO gauges are made for VW and use a differnt fitting. You'll need an adapter (that so far I can't find) to convert to the correct thread pattern.

Also the hose attachment for the VDO boost gauge is too long for the gauge to fit in an A pillar pod, you will have to go with either the din panel or a steering wheel pod like me.

They do look nice though, and there red led lights are a perfect match for the stock gauges.

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My msp will be similar to Carl's
- Hiboost FMIC - installed
- Perrin SRI - installed
- GHL Exhaust
- EBC set at 10psi
- Front Motor Mount
- Maybe some sort of EMS if by the time I'm ready a fully tested and de-bugged unit is available.

 

[CarlM2]

I would suggest a different oil pressure gauge. The VDO gauges are made for VW and use a differnt fitting. You'll need an adapter (that so far I can't find) to convert to the correct thread pattern...

Just a quick note on this... the VDO gauge is made to go with the electric VDO sender, regardless of what car it's on... it's a standard resistance range, anyway. (0-180 ohm) The thread pitch is BSP, just like the original.. there is no adaptor... the sending unit has a low-level contact to wire to the idiot light.... It's as simple and clean as can be.

I have the DIN panel and I don't know what the issue would be with the vacuum hose on the boost gauge being mounted anywhere else.

As to the wheels... I agree it's a pricey upgrade but losing 24lbs. of wheel and adding almost an inch of track width really made a big improvement in the handling. (I admit I wouldn't have done it if I hadn't hit a driveshaft on the highway and ruined one wheel.) So now it's a Christmas present.

-C