Blown Motors

[MS6mike]

my car blew at spike at 25 psi(scratch)(dunno)

mods on the engine.

ATP gt3076r1 turbo.
ATP catless down pipe.
ATP 3in turbo inlet.
CPE CAI.
CP-E EMS .
CP-E FMIC.
CP-E single turbo back exhaust.
CP-E motor mount.
HKS BOV.
Spec stage 3 +clucth.

 

[2.0t03speed]

lol. i remeber reading your thread when that all went down. s*** sucks. that thread was also where i pulled kens comment about the rods being cast =)

 

[MS6mike]

yea o well at least the car is moving!

 

[laloosh]

25psi on a gt30 with all the supporting bolt ons had to be 400whp

 

[Haltech]

my car blew at spike at 25 psi(scratch)(dunno)

mods on the engine.

ATP gt3076r1 turbo.
ATP catless down pipe.
ATP 3in turbo inlet.
CPE CAI.
CP-E EMS .
CP-E FMIC.
CP-E single turbo back exhaust.
CP-E motor mount.
HKS BOV.
Spec stage 3 +clucth.

car blew, I put it back to stock 100% and mazda fixed it for me! (alright)

now my car is slow!

Wow, so where did you set your boost pressure from? The CPE Standback or a Boost Controller.. 25psi with that monster turbo on there probably wasnt a pretty sight! Rods exit the block? Would of been real interesting if you were datalogging that run when she blew. Glad you got it warrantied though but im sure Mazda is keeping their eyes on this.

 

[Dr. D]

close... rod through oil pan

 

[acidbug]

Wow, so where did you set your boost pressure from? The CPE Standback or a Boost Controller.. 25psi with that monster turbo on there probably wasnt a pretty sight! Rods exit the block? Would of been real interesting if you were datalogging that run when she blew. Glad you got it warrantied though but im sure Mazda is keeping their eyes on this.

i heard he was modulating boost with his foot. So no boost control + big turbo equals boom.

 

[2.0t03speed]

he said right there in the mod list he was running the cpe.....

 

[MS6mike]

i was not controling boost with the stanback, i had a manual boost controler closed all the way. it failed i think do to either vaccum leak or manual boost controler failure!


oh and the rod opened two holes one in the block, then it bounced back and opend the a hole in the oil pan!

 

[Captain KRM P5]

it's on the mazda website under mazdaspeed accessories

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/spe...LineCode=MZ6&startModelYear=2004&categoryId=3

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/spe...LineCode=MZ6&startModelYear=2004&categoryId=3

straight from the big M's mouth and not even close to being true! (jerkit)

 

[jcgemt2003]

(iagree) Yah...complete bulls***. We tried putting it on my car when we went to the stage 3 clutch and it was way off. Mazda's full of s***(stooges)

 

[MS6mike]

BTW guess i am also being the first to put a supercharger in G37! hope this does not happend in the G!

 

[PeterSellers]

really so your calling ken the owner of protege garage a liar?

Did I say he was a liar? No, I didn't. Stop being a jackass.

 

[PeterSellers]

hahah im sorry but that is a lie. also you will see that they say that all the flywheels are interchangeable between the turbo and non turbo 2.3l. that is also not true.

I don't understand this logic at all. Because Mazda made a mistake by saying flywheels are interchangeable, that somehow supports the argument that they are outright LYING about having forged crank and rods?

From what I've seen, the only evidence presented that the rods aren't forged are because they "look like cast rods", coming from just one person (which runs contrary to every piece of documentation I've seen about this motor). But then again, factory forged rods look like cast rods all the time. Factory forged rods don't necessarily look like the nice smoothly polished aftermarket rods you see on sale all the time.

 

[PeterSellers]

if they are forged then why are the speed 6's blowing left and right? they have the same motor. im telling you there not im pretty sure if ken who builds forged motors for the ms3's and ms6's says there not forged and there made out of the same s*** thats in the regular fs-de im going to believe him.

Believe it or not, you can pop even the most sturdy built motors. Want to know how? bad tuning. The ECU's in our cars are notoriously finnicky and hard to tune. Add to that the fact that a lot of the speed 6's that blew had aftermarket turbos running increased boost, and it's not hard to see why some of them blew. Also, as far as I know, I haven't seen any ms3's that have spontaneously thrown a rod yet.

 

[redrocketz]

BTW guess i am also being the first to put a supercharger in G37! hope this does not happend in the G!

um there are quite a few G35's already supercharged and I'm sure there are a couple G37's already done. The engine is VERY similar to the 3.5 except now you have a throttle body on each side of the engine to worry about...

 

[MS6mike]

no there is not a supercharger in the market out! there is twin turbo setup orrady in one g37 but i want the SC. maybe protege garage can get it for me ?

 

[redrocketz]

no there is not a supercharger in the market out! there is twin turbo setup orrady in one g37 but i want the SC. maybe protege garage can get it for me ?

We do have an account with Stillen so it isn't out of the realm of possibilities. I'm sure they are developing something.

 

[MS6mike]

good deal!

 

[2.0t03speed]

Believe it or not, you can pop even the most sturdy built motors. Want to know how? bad tuning. The ECU's in our cars are notoriously finnicky and hard to tune. Add to that the fact that a lot of the speed 6's that blew had aftermarket turbos running increased boost, and it's not hard to see why some of them blew. Also, as far as I know, I haven't seen any ms3's that have spontaneously thrown a rod yet.

more motors have blown on the stock turbo then the aftermarket. and also if you see some ms6's are blowing with just light mods.