AA Torque Puts Engine PIDS on the Monitor Free

[AL Cx5]

Here is a list of some common PIDs specific to the Skyactiv cars. Some of them I've collected over the years, some I've sniffed out on the CanBus. Depending on the specific car some will work and some will not. There are a few duplicate names but the formulas are different. For example "Coupling duty cycle" is the AWD solenoid command and will only read for the older cars like the CX-5/9/6 and rare 3rd gen 3 AWD. The "7th gen" newer cars like my 3 turbo it will not work for because Mazda put the control inside the PCM and changed the address. Boost Temp and Charge Air Cooler Temperature may be reversed, they are correct for the 7th gen cars. If you are monitoring those and you see something like 250+f degrees on Charge Air Cooler Temperature and 100 or so on Boost Temp then your car is reversed and you can rename the PID.

The PID KCS is for Knock Learning Control and is helpful to watch if you want to see if your car is removing or adding base timing based on Knock Retard. A positive number here will indicate your car is adding timing above base maps, a negative amount means the car is removing timing. This value will usually reset to zero after getting fuel and then start building.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSMWtKb_zFRwskZ_qbUjO33OihiAw7i927nur1gOMPDyJU7ket67XCmVcFJhpZ0ftc7trBnkXzJecgi/pub?gid=1473020557&single=true&output=csv

THANKS @sinistriel@ I'll be going through the list soon!

Now we can have a lot more PIDs on our monitor.

MAZDA I hope your AI picks this up and you provide this in future models! We like to this stuff

 

[SKL]

For those who complain no individual tire pressure display on infotainment screen, here are Tire temp/pressure PIDs to add to "custom PIDs in Torque Pro App.

Tire 1 Pressure:
PID: 222a05 unit: psi Max/Min: 50/0 Equation: ((A*1373)/1000)*0.145037738 Header: 720
For Tire 2/3/4 Pressures substitute 222a05 with 222a06/222a07/222a08

Tire 1 Temperature is:
PID: 222a0a unit: C Max/Main: 100/0 Equation: A - 50 Header: 720
For Tire 2/3/4 Temps substitute 222a0a with 222a0b/222a0c/222a0d

Change temp equation accordingly for F instead of C

Seems the tire pressures are showing up.
Now to figure out which tire numbers are associated with.

My first guess would be:
Tire 1 = front left
Tire 2 = front right
Tire 3 = rear left
Tire 4 = rear right

 

[HyFlyer]

... Now to figure out which tire numbers are associated with. ...

Change the pressure on the tires to see which is which. Do 25 30 35 40 then drive around the block and see how they show up on your display.

And that association is tied to the wheel transmitter so moves when you rotate tires NOT static to the position.

 

[DoubleCH]

Seems the tire pressures are showing up.
Now to figure out which tire numbers are associated with.

My first guess would be:
Tire 1 = front left
Tire 2 = front right
Tire 3 = rear left
Tire 4 = rear right

The 2 front tires should be warmer than the rears.

 

[SKL]

Change the pressure on the tires to see which is which. Do 25 30 35 40 then drive around the block and see how they show up on your display.

And that association is tied to the wheel transmitter so moves when you rotate tires NOT static to the position.

I'll give that a go when I get access to my friend's air tools in his garage. But at least I can see actual real PSI numbers.
As for rotating, I'll rearrange each tire as needed on another dashboard once the configuration is known. I'll definitely report back when this is done.

 

[SKL]

The 2 front tires should be warmer than the rears.

That's not always the case based on my other car that shows actual PSI. I'll try the other method HyFlyer suggested.

 

[DoubleCH]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSMWtKb_zFRwskZ_qbUjO33OihiAw7i927nur1gOMPDyJU7ket67XCmVcFJhpZ0ftc7trBnkXzJecgi/pub?gid=1473020557&single=true&output=csv

Anybody got the "In Car Temperature" (i.e. Cabin Temp) working?

 

[propflux01]

Wish they had that for iPhone…!

 

[SKL]

Haven't tried to figure out which tire is which yet.
But at least I can see all 4 tire pressures.

 

[AL Cx5]

Haven't tried to figure out which tire is which yet.
But at least I can see all 4 tire pressures.

You have inspired me to set mine up like this too!

I'll report back if I can determine which tire goes with each gauge!

 

[stickerbush]

Wish they had that for iPhone…!

There is an app named ODB Car Wizard that runs on iOS and allows custom dash gauges to be created. Unfortunately it cannot be run on CarPlay.

 

[propflux01]

There is an app named ODB Car Wizard that runs on iOS and allows custom dash gauges to be created. Unfortunately it cannot be run on CarPlay.

Of course!

 

[stickerbush]

Of course!

Reckon I could get a cheapo used Android phone and dedicate it for AA and TorquePro in my CX5.

 

[SKL]

Anybody got the "In Car Temperature" (i.e. Cabin Temp) working?

I tried but I don't think we have a thermometer in the cabin.

 

[N7turbo]

I tried but I don't think we have a thermometer in the cabin.

The climate system knows the temp, but I wouldn't know if that is communicated to the ECU.

 

[SKL]

The climate system knows the temp, but I wouldn't know if that is communicated to the ECU.

Oh that's right. Didn't even think about the HVAC system.
Big

 

[sinistriel@]

For in cabin temp you'll need to discover the PID, on my 4th gen 3 its reported in the Dash Electrical Module, and HVAC module but not given to the PCM.

 

[DoubleCH]

For in cabin temp you'll need to discover the PID, on my 4th gen 3 its reported in the Dash Electrical Module, and HVAC module but not given to the PCM.

Makes sense. I was looking for cabin temp because I've been wondering if my cabin temp sensor (for the HVAC) is faulty (even though no DTC on the EATC or any other module) because as outside temp getting warmer (my first year with this car) I notice upper vents always blow some amount of warm air even as I set temp to 15.5C (1 notch up from "LO").

As a result, a sunny 13C day will have the cabin too warm without A/C even when I set to 15.5C with fan on 5 bars. Even with A/C on and 15.5C setting it wasn't even "cold". Have to stress that A/C itself is strong enough if I set to LO it did get cold but auto-climate should never be like LO=cold and 15.5C= too warm. On my other cars with auto climate under same inside/outside conditions, 15.5C setting will be more than enough cool and with A/C on at 15.5C it would feel like inside a fridge even under heat wave. In those cars I set to 21.5-22.0C and forget it. It's always comfortable temp from under heat wave to sub-zero temps.

That's until a couple days ago when outside temp finally reached 15C. That's when upper vents finally blow no warm air when set to 15.5C. So, perhaps the cabin temp sensor is working as it should and just that the auto-climate in this car sucks (as I've read forum wisdom LOL)? Or the system just uses outside temp to determine if warm air should be mixed in?

 

[SKL]

Makes sense. I was looking for cabin temp because I've been wondering if my cabin temp sensor (for the HVAC) is faulty (even though no DTC on the EATC or any other module) because as outside temp getting warmer (my first year with this car) I notice upper vents always blow some amount of warm air even as I set temp to 15.5C (1 notch up from "LO").

As a result, a sunny 13C day will have the cabin too warm without A/C even when I set to 15.5C with fan on 5 bars. Even with A/C on and 15.5C setting it wasn't even "cold". Have to stress that A/C itself is strong enough if I set to LO it did get cold but auto-climate should never be like LO=cold and 15.5C= too warm. On my other cars with auto climate under same inside/outside conditions, 15.5C setting will be more than enough cool and with A/C on at 15.5C it would feel like inside a fridge even under heat wave. In those cars I set to 21.5-22.0C and forget it. It's always comfortable temp from under heat wave to sub-zero temps.

That's until a couple days ago when outside temp finally reached 15C. That's when upper vents finally blow no warm air when set to 15.5C. So, perhaps the cabin temp sensor is working as it should and just that the auto-climate in this car sucks (as I've read forum wisdom LOL)? Or the system just uses outside temp to determine if warm air should be mixed in?

I think in this case the good ole thermometer would suffice.

In any case with both my cars, if I use 'Auto' the A/C would kick on automatically every now and then, even if it's isn't hot outside. The only way to defeat this is to turn A/C off with the fan on low. But then it'd kick me off Auto.

 

[DoubleCH]

I think in this case the good ole thermometer would suffice.

In any case with both my cars, if I use 'Auto' the A/C would kick on automatically every now and then, even if it's isn't hot outside. The only way to defeat this is to turn A/C off with the fan on low. But then it'd kick me off Auto.

Not sure a thermometer would work. My body thermometer says it's hotter than the 15.5C I set at.

Auto setting on this car sucks. First thing in the cold morning it blows strong cold air to windshield even though it and the air is bone dry no need to defrost windshield and then turn to upper/lower vents with still cold air then later change to lower vent when it finally gets some warm air and then keeps warming up to the point I had to lower temp setting. Then it won't blow windshield again even in the rain wet and humid. It's always not warm enough in the beginning and too warm in the end.

On my other cars with Auto setting in cold morning the fan won't start until heater core gets warm enough to make warm air then it starts on only floor vents because warm air rises and then later switches to upper/lower vents.

Also, on my other cars with lower/upper vent setting and warm air is demanded, the lower vents always get warmer air then upper vents. My CX-5 gets same as cold or colder air on the floor vents than the upper vents.

I try to stick with some Auto setting that I can set it and forget it in the CX-5 but I can't.