626 manifold

[spicyprotevo]

no, you don't want them lol...they are restricting the airflow

you may need to remove them but youll have to look at the manifold when you get it

on the 626 there are only one set of butterfly valves, up at the intake ports....the stock msp manifold uses both sets and splits into dual runners rather than single runners

single runner + no butterflies is what you want

I understand why you want less butterflies and less restriction, but the longer runners give you more torque. Thats why loads of these cars use them, my v6 probe had them, my friends hawn-duh has them....
If theres a thread that explains this better, please redirect me, but isnt getting rid of the stock intake gonna lose torque? Sure you gain horse, but soemtimes torque is nice too. Haha. And cant you just port/polish the stock one to flow just as well?

 

[neox.286]

yes you will loose low end torque

you gain a lot in the high end though

when you have a 98 whp (n/a) protege, horsepower will give you way more enjoyment than torque will

if your running an msp, this is probably one of the best mods I did to mine...and coupled with a proper tune I kicked out 200 wtq and 185 whp...with the proper tune, you can usually have your cake and eat it too

 

[foreverzero89]

just did my 626 mani and seemed to gain all around. i make boost so easy now and vacuum doesn't stand a chance! i use less of the throttle for the same amount of acceleration. fourth gear is actually useful now.

 

[carbonkid]

i love my 626 mani.
i love my 626 mani.
i love my 626 mani.

thanks protege garage!! My MSP is now a force to be reckoned with.

 

[starscream2k1]

i HATE my 626 intake mani, BUT i think its because i have a Unichip and it cant properly be tuned around the VTCS/VICS. And hence if i am crusing and hit the gas around 3000-3500rpm she bogs...then kicks up large in the upper RPM.....

 

[Captain KRM P5]

i HATE my 626 intake mani, BUT i think its because i have a Unichip and it cant properly be tuned around the VTCS/VICS. And hence if i am crusing and hit the gas around 3000-3500rpm she bogs...then kicks up large in the upper RPM.....

unichip tune could very well be the problem here

 

[mightyray]

unichip tune could very well be the problem here

Yeah I've been doing some research and unichip and the 626 IM don't work to well together. PM JDMsam and he can tune it for you. Thankfully Unichip is close to me and they'll dyno tune mine when I put it on for $200-$300.

 

[neox.286]

yea mine didn't pull too well until I had the unichip tuned for the manifold
at 10 psi on the stock turbo I hit 200 wtq and 185 whp

 

[Ricktalife]

i have the stock manifold and i still feel some kind of bogging. i just had practically all of my pipes replaced so it can't be a vacuum leak. all i have is a cai. suggestions? is it turbo lag?

 

[neox.286]

the msp naturally has some lag or slight 'bogging' in its powerband

it shouldn't be enough for anyone to immediately notice it, but if you drive it on a daily basis you definately notice it....it's just because of Mazdas bad tune

 

[msp03.5]

I have my 626 mani and Egr sitting here just need to clean it up. What should I use to clean this B%$#@ up? oh and just so I am clear I need the protege IM gasket the 626 EGR gasket and does it matter which throttle body gasket I use? I am thankful for threads like these!

 

[Captain KRM P5]

gaskets;
FS01 13 655 - throttle body
FSJ2 13 111A - intake manifold

use carb or brake cleaner for the cleanup

 

[BOOSTR]

paint it after degreasing it and washing it with duplicolor high heat engine-silver.

 

[neox.286]

I have my 626 mani and Egr sitting here just need to clean it up. What should I use to clean this B%$#@ up? oh and just so I am clear I need the protege IM gasket the 626 EGR gasket and does it matter which throttle body gasket I use? I am thankful for threads like these!

I don't know the part number for the egr gasket, but ken has the others in the post above....all of these gaskets are also available at autozone too

as for the clean up, I highly recommend getting some kind of carb cleaner and also getting a sturdy metal paint spackle....it makes it easy to scrape off any gasket material that might have been basically melted to the manifold, I remember mine being caked on there pretty well when I got it >.<

 

[msp03.5]

Nice! Thanks guys, I appreciate the info.

 

[spicyprotevo]

so if unichip can't tune well with the 626, then can anyone else? i was thinking that i would do the ssafc. would that mess anything up?

 

[neox.286]

no no no
the unichip will tune just fine with the 626

just the out of the box tune isn't setup for the 626 and it shows....just take it to a unichip tuneable shop

 

[Captain KRM P5]

I don't know the part number for the egr gasket, but ken has the others in the post above....all of these gaskets are also available at autozone too

as for the clean up, I highly recommend getting some kind of carb cleaner and also getting a sturdy metal paint spackle....it makes it easy to scrape off any gasket material that might have been basically melted to the manifold, I remember mine being caked on there pretty well when I got it >.<

dremel + wire brush attachment + carb cleaner = winnar

 

[neox.286]

troof!

I've done both, dremmel FTW! but the spackel works too and is a tad cheaper =P

 

[mightyray]

dremel + wire brush attachment + carb cleaner = winnar

+1. That's what I just did and it cleaned up easy. I didn't even have to use carb cleaner.