When I was at the dealer recently they told me that the 2016 was the redesign for this body style and that they will make this body style for a couple more years with minor additions until the redesigned 2nd generation body style comes out. It was his guess that the 2nd gen would be made to look more like the CX3.
2017 CX5 Changes?
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When I was at the dealer recently they told me that the 2016 was the redesign for this body style and that they will make this body style for a couple more years with minor additions until the redesigned 2nd generation body style comes out. It was his guess that the 2nd gen would be made to look more like the CX3.
mazdadude
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It would be odd for the 2017 to be a 2nd gen. There have been no mentions, spy sightings, or car shows that have announced it.
Typically, it seems that Mazda had minor refreshes on a 3 yr cycle, and major design changes on a 6 year.
Honestly (HIGHY SPECULATIVE), I would expect the 2019 Model to come out in early spring 2018, and this will be the all new 2nd gen.
What does the CX-3 system have that the CX-5 doesn't?
Could only find this. "The all-wheel-drive CX-3 also comes with an impressive computer-controlled system that not only compensates for lost traction on the front wheels, but predicts the need for more torque at the rear wheels. It does this through a network of sensors and data including ambient temperature, steering effort, steering angle, vehicle acceleration, and more. More impressively, it does all of this even when the vehicle is at a stand-still--predicting the need for all-wheel drive before the driver even puts a foot on the gas. It's impressive both in theory and in practice, and borders on the application of artificial intelligence."
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That's impressive indeed... But not happening on 2017 CX-5!
I could see them adding the LED front grille like the 2016 Mazda6's have.
I can also see them possibly adding the HEADS-UP display like the 3's and 6's.
Very good guess. In Japan, the 2016 already has the glow grill. Not only that, but also a glow emblem. Comes as an option. Japan gets all the cool accessories that the US doesn't. Grrr...You'll see the info from the thread here: http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123850602-JDM-Accessories
"Mazda’s i-ACTIV all-wheel drive system is invisible in regular driving, as the system’s computer recognises its redundancy and disconnects the rear wheels to save fuel. However, in slippery conditions, where older all-wheel-drive technology might react to loss of traction, the i-ACTIV system “predicts” an impending slip based on feedback from sensors monitoring temperature, anti-lock braking and traction control. The power is directed to the rear wheels pre-emptively, to give the CX-3 a nudge forward, before the front tires slip."
http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20150526-driving-mazdas-small-spectacular-cx-3
Looks like it might be doing some simulated LSD via ABS. My other car does something similar.
http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20150526-driving-mazdas-small-spectacular-cx-3
Looks like it might be doing some simulated LSD via ABS. My other car does something similar.
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IMO and brief tidbits here and there....I don't know on the hardware side but appears additional sensors, works from a start and programming changes
The simulated LSD could be done with programming.
I am curious now. I know the the cx-3 AWD hardware is smaller and lighter but I figured everything else was the same. I know that the 2016 cx-5 already includes an upgraded AWD system over previous years.
That was stated in Mazda's '16 announcements but I never heard of any actual improvements. One would need to obtain a '16 FSM and see if any additional sensors are connected on the schematics. I've posted diagrams of AWD system in '15 FSM previously in other threads. Even in the '13'-'15 turning on the windshield wipers affects how the AWD works. Not the specifics but it is a sensor tied into AWD operation.
There were some videos on Youtube showing the simulated LSD is not on '16 but they have since been made private. CX-3 did seem to crawl over the ramps in video better than the '16 CX-5. Of course the CX-5 seemed to do better than the Impreza too.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...AWD-function-Mine-may-not-be-working-properly
EDIT: KBB Says about '16: "The available all-wheel drive system also has been revised for more efficient operation. "
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It looks like the I-Activ AWD in the CX-3 builds upon the new system in the '16 CX-5.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...=b752c55330b96dc3b8907982c7859b15&action=view
https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...=b752c55330b96dc3b8907982c7859b15&action=view
IMO... I'm not reading that from the video.... while core AWD system is from CX-5 it still reads to me that I-Active AWD enhancements are new to the CX-3. When you search out Mazda i-Activ AWD I only see this on articles associated with the CX-3.
EDIT: Maybe Japanese market already has the upgrades?
I have no problem being wrong on this... just not seeing anything conclusive. Again... this should show up in a '16 FSM if anyone has access to one.
EDIT: Here is thread on '13-15 AWD technical data with pictures.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123850161-Misc-CX-5-AWD-technical-info
Almost all of those included sensors at around 1:21 are already in the current "older" system as per this from my '15 FSM:
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I wish those videos were still online... IMO...I could see how that new system comes into play climbing those ramps on the CX-3. It appeared to me to be operationally different between the CX-3 and the '16 CX-5 tested.
Some day we will know for sure though.
Some day we will know for sure though.
silverevo05
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I'm curious Too
If the 17 receives updates to the interior like the 40/20/40 seats for the SPORT, I would gladly wait but when will the 17's be out???
If the 17 receives updates to the interior like the 40/20/40 seats for the SPORT, I would gladly wait but when will the 17's be out???
I wish those videos were still online... IMO...I could see how that new system comes into play climbing those ramps on the CX-3. It appeared to me to be operationally different between the CX-3 and the '16 CX-5 tested.
Some day we will know for sure though.
I think you can learn more from watching real world off-road videos. Then, once you see what it can do, ask yourself how likely you are to actually need more off-road capability. If you answer "likely" then you bought the wrong car. The first video is a 2014 CX-5, second video is of my 2013 CX-5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LcamJP0h7A
Here's one I took a few weeks ago demonstrating the climbing of a hill with a steep lip on top. The first attempt I high centered on the middle of the chassis, the second try climbed right over. The bottom of the hill had a large mud puddle which wet the half worn-out Geolanders right before hitting the lip so traction was scarce but the CX-5 did great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZCROYEK1DM
On my first failed attempt, notice that, as I'm backing down, I used the brakes to lock up all four wheels as the front wheels backed off the lip and yet, I still slid backwards, fully locked up, about 6 feet. Had all 4 wheels not been providing good torque on the way up, there is no way it would have made it over.
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http://www.carsdirect.com/2017/mazda/cx-5
The Mazda CX-5 is due for a mild freshening for the 2017 model year. Major changes are currently not expected following the crossover's initial debut in 2013. The vehicle will most likely get revised sheet metal, though details have not yet been released.
Engine choices will likely carry over unchanged from the 2016 model. These consist of a base 2.0-liter 4-cylinder making 155 hp with 155 lb-ft of torque or a larger 2.5-liter making 184 hp with 185 lb-ft. Fuel efficiency continues to be a key selling point, with the vehicle netting up to 35 mpg in highway driving when equipped with the 2.0-liter engine.
The 2017 Mazda CX-5 is currently expected to arrive in early 2016. This would be consistent with recent years in which Mazda began selling the CX-5 along with the Mazda6 considerably earlier than its other models.
The Mazda CX-5 is due for a mild freshening for the 2017 model year. Major changes are currently not expected following the crossover's initial debut in 2013. The vehicle will most likely get revised sheet metal, though details have not yet been released.
Engine choices will likely carry over unchanged from the 2016 model. These consist of a base 2.0-liter 4-cylinder making 155 hp with 155 lb-ft of torque or a larger 2.5-liter making 184 hp with 185 lb-ft. Fuel efficiency continues to be a key selling point, with the vehicle netting up to 35 mpg in highway driving when equipped with the 2.0-liter engine.
The 2017 Mazda CX-5 is currently expected to arrive in early 2016. This would be consistent with recent years in which Mazda began selling the CX-5 along with the Mazda6 considerably earlier than its other models.
After contacting Mazda customer service I received this reply:
"Thank you for contacting Mazda and inquiring about the 2017 Mazda CX5.
Mazda has not provided any details of when the 2017 Mazda CX5 will be available, we don't have any updates or changes that will be made at this time. The 2017 CX5 won't be at the Detroit Auto show in January. I have provided the link to one of our websites that you can always check for updates on the new vehicles that will be coming out. Feel free to visit the web page.
http://www.mazdausamedia.com/index.php?s=31676&cat=334"
"Thank you for contacting Mazda and inquiring about the 2017 Mazda CX5.
Mazda has not provided any details of when the 2017 Mazda CX5 will be available, we don't have any updates or changes that will be made at this time. The 2017 CX5 won't be at the Detroit Auto show in January. I have provided the link to one of our websites that you can always check for updates on the new vehicles that will be coming out. Feel free to visit the web page.
http://www.mazdausamedia.com/index.php?s=31676&cat=334"
