1997 Proteg Clicking related to: Air Conditioner and Idle

ianhowell

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1997 Proteg Clicking related to: Air Conditioner and Idle

Hi Everyone,

My Brother, Rmi, has been a member of various Mazda forums for years (he has a mazda 3, and moderates a few of these forums) and speaks volumes of them.

I have a 1997 Proteg and something is wrong with the engine when the A/C is running. I just moved to a new city (Philadelphia), don't know a good mechanic to trust, and need some help diagnosing the issue.

History:

The air conditioner stopped working a number of years ago. Apparently the power steering and A/C both went out as a result of the compressor failing. Rather than fix it, my now fiance had them simply disconnect the A/C compressor from the shared belt.

Years later (and in preparation to sell said car) we had the A/C compressor replaced. Everything worked perfectly for a few days until we took the car on a long (10+ hour) drive.

This long drive revealed that the drain tube had been clogged. The right side of the cabin (front and back) flooded *sighs*.

During this trip my fiance (I was in another car) complained that the engine was surging and doing strange things as she slowed down.

Sure enough, when the A/C is running (and, it seems, only when the A/C is running) not only are the shifts rough (I could describe it as surging), and the 'at rest' idle very erratic, there is an audible clicking sound (think popping your tongue on the roof of your mouth) at both shift points and with every idle surge. This issue seems to be exacerbated by turning the fan to a higher speed. (Which doesn't make a lot of sense to me, as I thought that just ran the fan faster, not the A/C system harder.)

I took it to a local mechanic who thought that it needed a tune-up (see above - I can't find someone to trust yet). I did the tune up myself today. Yes, it did need a tune-up (corrosion abounded), but that did not fix the problem.

We have been having nondescript 'check engine' lights off and on for the past year. Our mechanic back in Connecticut said that the majority of them were a vague 'evap' error message. Our second to most recent one was a generic 'dealer service' message, and the most recent one (when we took it in to be inspected for PA registration) had something to do with a 'vacuum' error.

I have my little Haynes manual for the car, but the A/C section gets too complicated for me too quickly to be helpful!

If this sounds familiar to anyone, please reply to this! Any thoughts or requests to refine this description would be most welcome.

All best,

Ian
 
I know on those years the intake tube rips between the folds, and might be causing your surging. Now the clickin of the AC is the clutch kicking in and off, putting load on and off the motor. When the AC isnt in use for a long while it doesnt ever really work right. When the compressor failed im sure there is all debree in the system and most stuff might be clogged up. If you get me what codes you get out of your car I can do some research at work for ya.
 
Hi,
thanks for following up with me!
I checked the hose between the folds, and the rubber definitely looked old and had some cracks. Whether they went all the way through I'm not sure?
I can't seem to find the part online? (I emailed one guy through these forums, but he hasn't responded.)

For good measure I checked and replaced the gas tank cap, but it made no difference.
 
Humm, that intake tube might have to be ordered through the dealer. Have a shop do an AC performance test, that will see if the pressures are correct for the High and Low sides. If they are not you have other probs with the AC system. If you were sellin the car, I would have left it alone. Lol
 
Ian if you end up needing a part from the dealer I'd drop an e-mail to bagman1 (aka Jason from onlinemazdaparts.com...... where I got the stuff for dad's Mz5 and my 3) at mazdapart@gmail.com. He should be able to track down the part number you need if you can describe it well enough. He's usually super quick and generally has great prices.

There's also a pick and pull junk yard near me that has a bunch of old proteges........ I have no idea what years they are, how to tell by looking, and if they even have the part you need. Anyway it's an option.
 
Hi guys im new im from venezuela and i have a mazda protege! but the thing is my engine its 1.6L and i dont know if its the same engine that you have thats 1.5L, the thing is that i want a custom header but! i dont know i could use the header OBX that says its for mazda 99 03 or 01 i dont know but to me seens to be the same engine or when i cand find the custom header for my engine?
 

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