CX-5 Diesel--worth the price premium?
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Never read anything like that before.
But diesels take longer to warm up due to less losses, so are unsuitable for short journeys.
But diesels take longer to warm up due to less losses, so are unsuitable for short journeys.
I'm the same, but if a turbo petrol became available with sufficient torque and power the diesel would be booted into the long grass immediatly.
Both of you are working very hard to discredit what I'm posting, but i think you underestimate the readers on this site.
Time will tell who is right or wrong.
Time will tell who is right or wrong.
Mattyredsox
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Discredit you? No. We've asked you to back up what you're saying. That's it, nothing more or less. It's not a contest.
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Diesel here is typically 10-15c per litre more expensive than unleaded - which probably accounts for the different advice from RACQ. No subsidies at all.
RACQ had no qualms about the Mazda diesel engine in general, when I called to speak to their technical advisors about it and to ask if I should have any concerns. And they take their job of protecting members interests very seriously.
Their main advice was to buy diesel from high volume outlets, to reduce the risk of getting contaminated fuel. All diesel here has to meet the one fuel standard, so theres really nothing much between them quality wise. Some have more anti-foaming agents than others. Ive actually found one of the big players - Shell - to be the most foamy of all. Makes filling up a bit messy so I avoid them.
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Our mission is to keep some balance and sense in the discussion!!
You are the one continually coming on here and telling a tale of woe, but without any statistics to back it up.
Yes, problems and failures happen. As they do to all makes and models. We can find examples everywhere.
But only the stats can tell the real story.
Time to Put up or .....
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Mattyredsox
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I remember foamy fuel in the US back in the 80's with a diesel rabbit... HESS gas. No such thing in Japan, where fuel seems to be fairly tightly controlled quality wise and pretty close price-wise. Gasoline is always more - I think this has to do with not wanting to affect business (i.e. trucks and buses) but wanting to steer the public towards public transportation. Only clean diesel engines such as what's in the CX5 qualify for the discount, and you have to own it for a certain period of time (four year minimum), so we are getting 25% "clawed back" from our 2014, but then getting the subsidy all over again for or 2017.
So yeah, I think it's worthwhile for people to do their homework with diesels, and get one if the savings are there; but from my experience and what I've read and seen over here, there's no reason to fear diesels, these are not like the ones I grew up with, requiring lots of extra care, having a stink, not wanting to try and start one on a freezing morning, and anything else. It runs just like the gasoline engines I've had in the other ten or so carsI've had over the years that were gasoline powered.
I literally push the start button, make sure my kid is buckled in, and drive off. On cold mornings I start it right before scraping the windshield and knocking snow off the roof, and drive off. My neighbor does the same, except he leaves the snow on his roof (I hate that) and doesn't have a kid.
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See, there ya go again.
Making smart -a remarks that are not backed up by any facts or data. One could be forgiven for thinking you are living under a bridge, nissan man.
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Next year wife and I will be visiting Japan for the 5th time. Not sure when yet. Been to Hiroshima twice. Amazing city.
We have Japanese friends living in Nagoya, our first Japan trip 11 years ago was to their wedding at Itsukushima shrine on Miyajima. (They of course drive a Toyota!)
We might have to try to catch up for a beer and a laugh!
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Mattyredsox
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That works for me... I've been meaning to do the Mazda tour actually, so that might be an idea. I toured Chrysler and GM years ago as a kid, it was pretty cool. I've only heard good things about the tour here, and they even have an English language one.
And I like beer too!
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Plenty of great beer in Japan. Ive been to the Toyota musuem at Toyoda and the Toyota museum of Industry and Technology in Nagoya, great experiences. Even got to tour Aichi Steel rolling mill in Tokai city (friends father works there) where they make the steel for Toyota using Australian Iron ore and coking coal.
Mazda factory tour would be great!
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Back up what?
Thats like asking all the posts on this forum to be backed up, including yours.
You need to get a reality check, and accept that the diesel is problematic.
Thats like asking all the posts on this forum to be backed up, including yours.
You need to get a reality check, and accept that the diesel is problematic.
Just exactly what stats are you expecting, you will never get those for any car, try being realistic.
Instead of waffling.
Instead of waffling.
Chris_Top_Her
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(sleep)
Imagine viewing a Rotary Engine assembly plant. It would like watching how light sabers being made.
Mattyredsox
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If I can video or take photos, I will.
If you are going in the winter I highly recommend the lake shikotsu ice festival and the Sapporo snow festival.
Spent 2 weeks last Feb working my way from Sapporo down to Tokyo. 68 miles walked and a ton o fun
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If you are going in the winter I highly recommend the lake shikotsu ice festival and the Sapporo snow festival.
Spent 2 weeks last Feb working my way from Sapporo down to Tokyo. 68 miles walked and a ton o fun
Yes, on the list!
If you havent been to Yudanaka, its a great spot to see these litle guys:
Snow monkeys
I used to wonder why all the fuss about cherry blossom season. But it truly is amazing.
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I've read some of the reports, as I am planning on buying the Skyactiv-D myself when it becomes available in the U.S. in the fall. I'm not even a Mazda owner at this point and have never owned one. From my perspective, there is zero evidence that the 2.2 liter diesel engine is less reliable overall than any other diesel engine. Certainly some owners have had issues with oil level, but again, no evidence that those issues are an inherent flaw in the basic engine design that affects anything but a small minority of vehicles and/or ones that are operated under unusual usage patterns. The people who don't have issues with their engines don't post on forums, so even if 200 separate people have posted about this issue (and that's probably a stretch), there are literally hundreds of thousands of people who aren't having the issue or it isn't a big enough problem to warrant internet posting.
