What have you done to your MSP today?
- Thread starter baconbitz
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- 03.5 YLW MSP
and please link us to them.. i have yet to see one.
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- MSP 1145
because. OE pistons are junk. stock ringlands are junk. upgrade if you're going to do it man.
thecrash91
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- 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
so you dont shatter the piston from detonation\pinging
I can find a bunch of fail for the speed3 mounts, can't find the one's for the pro's at the moment. Don't really feel like taking the time to do it either. Alot of people had issues with the campany itself hence the name change. Take that for what it's worth.
Interesting question. If you're not chainging the compression with a different piston head it could work, would depend on the quality of oem vs. aftermarket options I guess?
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- 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
just bought aem ignition system and exhaust manifold studs
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
My thoughts exactly. Not saying it doesn't happen, but the majority of failures I've ever seen whether it be an MSP or otherwise is normally the rod failing, not the piston.
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
What's "half-assing" about it? Can someone provide technical documentation proving that the piston is completely inferior to the aftermarket unit? That's all I'm wanting to know, not opinions that can't be backed up.
I highly doubt anyone giving you advice is a Master engine builder (20 plus years experience). So instead of seeking internet opinions, why don't you talk to a master engine builder and see what he has to say about your prospective pairings in a boosted application.
thecrash91
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- 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
technical data: they are crap. lol jk i couldnt resist. the only thing i could think of is what i said earlier that they could shatter due to pinging. but how often do we see shattered piston head threads? my guess is because the rods cant handle as much as the pistons, and when one goes forged they generally do both so i guess the OE pistons have never really been tested with high power (high being relative of course)
shane02pro5
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- New Caney TX
Juan from Hiboost Turbo way back used to modify stock pistons (possibly coated also) to work with aftermarket rods and he ran close to 20psi (no idea how long that would last)...honestly though with all the work involved doing it once I'd feel more "COMFORTABLE" 
running anything close to higher boost (which most plan for with an engine build) using proven aftermarket forged aluminum pistons! Overkill is always better in my opinion
running anything close to higher boost (which most plan for with an engine build) using proven aftermarket forged aluminum pistons! Overkill is always better in my opinion - :
- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
I think the piston can withstand much more power than you people are THINKING. So, I'm going to do it. I'll be the test mule. You can either LAUGH at me when it goes completely FUBAR.
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
I have multiple ASE certifications, manage a large independent, fully-equipped shop, so it's not THAT big of a deal for me to do it. If I was paying someone else, or didn't have a facility and tools, or something like that, there's no way I'd do it.Juan from Hiboost Turbo way back used to modify stock pistons (possibly coated also) to work with aftermarket rods and he ran close to 20psi (no idea how long that would last)...honestly though with all the work involved doing it once I'd feel more "COMFORTABLE"
Spiced MSP
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- 2016 Peterbilt 579
cleaned and re oiled the K&N
