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How helpful. The OP must be so grateful for your comment. SMH.toyota hilux
How helpful. The OP must be so grateful for your comment. SMH.toyota hilux
Oh, yes, 3rd. and 4th. brake jobs at 28,000 miles are not surprising at all. Sheesh, rolling eyes, whatnot.Honestly I’m not really surprised for the problems on your 2020 CX-5 Sig. in Colombia. From what I’ve read, somehow Mazda has managed to become a poorer quality and reliability car brand from Japan in Asian countries such as China and Taiwan. Another Japanese car brand is in similar situation? Honda.
Maybe there not Mazda pads or any name brand pads. Perhaps the shop OP is taking vehicle for service is throwing on subpar off brand pads? My guess is they just leave them on and don't even touch them.Oh, yes, 3rd. and 4th. brake jobs at 28,000 miles are not surprising at all. Sheesh, rolling eyes, whatnot.
There are a number of possibilities. Who could say for sure? As I recall, Pitter drops 7,000 ft. from his mountain aerie over a relatively few miles on a twisty road every time he goes to town. That would cause premature brake wear. But this bad? And I seem to recall he did not have a problem this severe with his previous vehicle. Given the laundry list of items I would not rule out locals dipping into the wallet of a "rich", naive gringo.Maybe there not Mazda pads or any name brand pads. Perhaps the shop OP is taking vehicle for service is throwing on subpar off brand pads? My guess is they just leave them on and don't even touch them.
Totally agree. I don't believe for a second that pads were legitimately wearing this fast. Wearing faster than normal use? Totally. Four sets in 28k miles? Come on, that's a shop trying to pull one over.There are a number of possibilities. Who could say for sure? As I recall, Pitter drops 7,000 ft. from his mountain aerie over a relatively few miles on a twisty road every time he goes to town. That would cause premature brake wear. But this bad? And I seem to recall he did not have a problem this severe with his previous vehicle. Given the laundry list of items I would not rule out locals dipping into the wallet of a "rich", naive gringo.
This is why some of us still feel Mazda should be offering a manual 5 or 6 speed. A lot less braking.Totally agree. I don't believe for a second that pads were legitimately wearing this fast. Wearing faster than normal use? Totally. Four sets in 28k miles? Come on, that's a shop trying to pull one over.
That's why I want to know if you specifically took it in for brake complaints @Pitter or if they are really just trying to tack on a bunch of stuff you don't actually need while doing a routine oil change or something.
1st are you sure those are your pads in the pics? They look deeply scoured. What do your rotors look like? Did they ever turn or replace your rotors? It's looks like they just keep replacing pads on bad rotors to me. If those are even pics of your pads? The last pic looks like someone sprayed battery acid on the brake pads to create those dimples. I'd recommend popping your front wheel off and checking the rotor to see if it's smooth or gouged. If the rotors bad, have them turned or replaced before putting on new pads. For the supposed oil leak, if your not losing oil and needing to add oil then I'd say their full of s***. Unless they mean there is seepage?View attachment 315352View attachment 315353View attachment 315354View attachment 315355View attachment 315356
These are images the shop sent to me via WhatsApp while the car was being serviced. I don't know what the third one is. And I don't know if the images are adequate to show condition. On my next trip to the US I could buy pads at a Mazda dealer or maybe aftermarket to see if they're better but there's a catch 22. It is illegal to bring in auto parts (some protectionist thing). That said inspection has been quite lax on may last couple of trips so there's a good chance I could get them in. To recap, my daily decent is about eight and a half miles from about 6,900 ft down to 3,300 ft. Three full sets of pads have been replaced plus the rears an additional time. At 18,400 miles the front disks were scored and replaced. About 3.7 miles daily are over rough dirt road.
The oil leak I'm still not clear on. My mechanical Spanish leaves much to be desired but I'm going to nail it down on Monday and I'll post a follow up. There is no oil leaking on my parking area. The brake pad replacements have occurred at the regular service intervals, not the result of any problem I noted. The last four vehicles I've owned here, Suzuki 4x4 Vitara, Mazda 4x4 pickup, Nissan 4x4 Frontier (pads changed at 25,000 miles) and Renault 4x4 Duster (pads changed at 37,000 miles) all had only front disc brakes.
I'm not sure what I'd change to if I had my druthers (and the money). Perhaps Toyota Landcruiser 76 series or Nissan Patrol.
First of all, did you already approve the work? Otherwise it is not clear to me why the pads are off the car unless you reported a braking problem.View attachment 315352View attachment 315353View attachment 315354View attachment 315355View attachment 315356
These are images the shop sent to me via WhatsApp while the car was being serviced. I don't know what the third one is. And I don't know if the images are adequate to show condition. On my next trip to the US I could buy pads at a Mazda dealer or maybe aftermarket to see if they're better but there's a catch 22. It is illegal to bring in auto parts (some protectionist thing). That said inspection has been quite lax on may last couple of trips so there's a good chance I could get them in. To recap, my daily decent is about eight and a half miles from about 6,900 ft down to 3,300 ft. Three full sets of pads have been replaced plus the rears an additional time. At 18,400 miles the front disks were scored and replaced. About 3.7 miles daily are over rough dirt road.
The oil leak I'm still not clear on. My mechanical Spanish leaves much to be desired but I'm going to nail it down on Monday and I'll post a follow up. There is no oil leaking on my parking area. The brake pad replacements have occurred at the regular service intervals, not the result of any problem I noted. The last four vehicles I've owned here, Suzuki 4x4 Vitara, Mazda 4x4 pickup, Nissan 4x4 Frontier (pads changed at 25,000 miles) and Renault 4x4 Duster (pads changed at 37,000 miles) all had only front disc brakes.
I'm not sure what I'd change to if I had my druthers (and the money). Perhaps Toyota Landcruiser 76 series or Nissan Patrol.
Right. The OP indicates they are not resurfacing or replacing the rotors this time around. That would indicate mild scoring at worse on the rotors, which in turn indicates the scoring on the pads would be mild.Pads do conform to rotors and if your rotors dont have any deep grooves in them but rather light circles on the surface and are not glazed over and have never been cut before, then they are also perfectly fine and serviceable with a little fine grit sandpaper to smooth out any fine lines.
I agree he's getting scammed. really doubt those are pics of OPs pads.Right. The OP indicates they are not resurfacing or replacing the rotors this time around. That would indicate mild scoring at worse on the rotors, which in turn indicates the scoring on the pads would be mild.
There is reason to believe a personal inspection or second opinion might be in order regarding the leak and belt replacement that is also being recommended. It's especially hard to believe a belt would be shot at 28k miles.
Not sure what that is in the 3rd. picture.
I've been trying to figure out these pictures. The 'caliper' picture looks like a dual piston caliper which to my knowledge the CX-5 doesn't have, only single piston caliper. The brake pad with the opposite 'arc' you refer to looks like a basically new pad with the 'arcs' being from the grinding the surface smooth in manufacturing. The imbedded metal particles look normal as I've seen this many times in the past in brake pads (brass looking usually).Third pic looks like a broken caliper body around the piston.
Pads have what looks like 80% or better thickness remaining.
That last pad picture looks like metal embedded in the pad. Also, the "arc" of the rotor wear looks opposite of the arc of the pad (as if it were somehow installed upside down). I dunno how that would be possible.
You could ask the shop why they want to replace the pads? It can't be for thickness. If that 3rd pic is indeed a caliper on your car, I would think it would need replaced.
That really looks like a harsh environment you operate in. Dust, dirt and debris.
The 2.5 turbo and 2.2 diesel have dual piston calipers up front.... The 'caliper' picture looks like a dual piston caliper which to my knowledge the CX-5 doesn't have, only single piston caliper. ...
Are they sure the leak isn't further up? (If it is even leaking at all)@ Tchman2016 ha ha no I'm not a woman, that's a girlfriend in the avatar, much more decorative than me!
And to everyone, first of all thank you very, very much. Lots of great advice and analysis.
Ok the car was delivered this morning and I sat down the service manager for a clear explanation of the issue. The car needs replacement of seals betwenn the engine and transmission due to an oil leak. I asked him why? Some kind of damage from hitting a rock in the road (there's one I have hit when not seeing it at night). He said no just normal wear. Huh??? Has anyone in the states ever heard of this?
In the future I will seperate issues to their proper forums. This time they all came at once.
Yes, a couple of members here had had this problem. Kedis82ZE8 had the rear crankshaft bearing seal leaking and got replaced under 5-year / 60K-mile powertrain warranty.⋯ The car needs replacement of seals betwenn the engine and transmission due to an oil leak. I asked him why? Some kind of damage from hitting a rock in the road (there's one I have hit when not seeing it at night). He said no just normal wear. Huh??? Has anyone in the states ever heard of this?
I had a rear main seal leak and that timing chain cover leak on my CX-5. Both repaired under warranty . TC weep came back. I just clean it up a couple times a year. Nothing hits the ground. It comes and goes for whatever reason... perhaps temp but has never gotten worse.
Small Oil leak for me too... :-(
Looks like I will paying the dealer a visit. I noticed some of this residue when I changed my front diff and cleaned it up as well. I thought somehow it was leftover from oil change. Apparently not. Nothing big enough to accumulate on the floor but you won't see it unless you drop the front...mazdas247.com