Why you prefer NA over Boost...

[Gen1GT]

I'd like to hear why everyone in this section prefers NA over boost. I talk with other people about it, and they think I'm crazy that I'd rather have a 150whp NA car, than a 250whp turbo car. Here's my reasons

throttle response, both on and off throttle
the sound..you can't beat actually being able to hear valve events
linear power delivery
drivability
engine braking


I don't want to hear from people who just 'can't afford a turbo'. I want to hear from people who would build an NA car even if they had all the money in the world....

 

[Replica]

Um, I had an Eaton. Throttle response was amazing, it was very "driveable" and i used engine braking all the time.

All-motor is really neat in that there's nothing cooler than stomping another car's ass without having to run boost. Mods are very hard to spot on an all-motor setup. Also, hearing the valves is pretty cool.

 

[sidpro5]

Lumpy exhaust owns! I'd love to be able to get some serious performance out of the 2.0, but the cost and reliability factors are just too overwhelming. It's obvious Mazda DIDN'T leave much room for improvement with these engines, unlike Honda or Toyota. Considering these vehicles were marketed toward a younger crowd, that just makes no sense.
That being said, cost IS the biggest factor for me, be it boosted or N/A. That and the limitations on potential, while retaining driveability.Hell, with the money I've already put into it, if it had an "H" in the grille, I'd prolly be at 200 hp already! lol
But if it were easier, it wouldn't be any fun, right?

 

[Gen1GT]

But if it were easier, it wouldn't be any fun, right?

EXACTLY!

 

[twilightprotege]

i have gone NA because you can build it up slowly and it's easier to insure hehehe

 

[batmang]

n/a rocks.

 

[L8R]

uh...

1. less maintanence (gas, oil changes, motor life, etc.)
2. much cheaper to keep it n/a
3. id rather buy a car already fast, instead of trying to push the protege to break down

 

[20EVOLUTION01]

All Motors just kicks A** (bow). Plus, building the motor up with just engine parts is amazing. Figuring out what makes your car go faster with parts alone is the challenge. Anyone can boost but to say you ar N/A is a great feeling. Its like an eye brow raiser. (cool)

 

[Mr. Win]

ill have to say that theres linear power deliv in any properly tuned car... umm N/As is great if it did anything on our cars. But thier isnt the interest to do it because of the fact the protege 2.0 is a very limited production car and then the number that acutally seriously mod would pay anyways to have custom setups sooo on the protege its rather pointess because all the mods we have now just free up power and really dont show any gains. im sorry but 15.9 isnt anything.

 

[viVid]

im sorry but 15.9 isnt anything.

It's not bad for a grocery getting, 4-door station wagon that happens to look nice . Personally, I like n/a because I don't have to constantly look at a myriad of gauges and worry about blowing my engine up... I can keep my eyes on the road instead.

 

[Gen1GT]

All Motors just kicks A** (bow). Plus, building the motor up with just engine parts is amazing. Figuring out what makes your car go faster with parts alone is the challenge. Anyone can boost but to say you ar N/A is a great feeling. Its like an eye brow raiser. (cool)

I agree. There's a mystique to NA power. In my case, I'm doing the sleeper thing. The only thing you can see in my engine bay is my pod filter, and when I get my header done, I want to use my friends old Prelude heat shield. I can show people the powerplant, and it looks like some beat up old engine. You can't see cams, pistons, headwork etc tec

 

[Mr. Win]

It's not bad for a grocery getting, 4-door station wagon that happens to look nice . Personally, I like n/a because I don't have to constantly look at a myriad of gauges and worry about blowing my engine up... I can keep my eyes on the road instead.

good luck getting 15.9 out of a p5 i meant rogues old ass pro with no interior.

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

Originally Posted by SenorCorwin
im sorry but 15.9 isnt anything

i completely agree man. Thats what I run and I continuously b**** about my car. Others disagree with me, but they don't have to drive my car everyday. Honestly I'd rather have a supercharger..Turbo's fun I guess..Nobody elses car sounds like a 747 while in traffic...sometime's thats fun..If anybody wants to know what our cars sound like with a header and a race-pipe..I should have a video up shortly..It's monster truck rally meets uncle ben.

 

[Mr. Win]

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i completely agree man. Thats what I run and I continuously b**** about my car. Others disagree with me, but they don't have to drive my car everyday. Honestly I'd rather have a supercharger..Turbo's fun I guess..Nobody elses car sounds like a 747 while in traffic...sometime's thats fun..If anybody wants to know what our cars sound like with a header and a race-pipe..I should have a video up shortly..It's monster truck rally meets uncle ben.

totally feel you there which header and exhaust you runnign?

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

a stainless 4-1 and 2.4" piping all the way back with no cats.

 

[Gen1GT]

15.9 is respecable for a car that runs 16.5-17 from the factory. It's not like any of us have crazy mods....yet

 

[FC3s Boy]

you guys forgot about better gas mileage my P5 gets 28-30 mpg while a boosted P5 gets only 19-22mpg, and i run 87 oct. instead of 91. On my rx7 i stay n/a because it is something different .

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

yeah the gas mileage is pretty nice..that will change soon.

 

[Replica]

I love being NA because being slow is awesome.

 

[Installshield 2]

This is how it is...don't disagree with me because I am right: FI, anyway you cut it, is cheating...Any event that creates an engine to have more than 100% volumetric efficiency is cheating...

I don't really race at all, other than an occasional trip to the track...But this for anyone that does race...When you condone a turbo, or other "forceful" device on your car...you are automatically eligable to an entirely different bracket of racing...So someone tells you to line up next to an NA M3, you have absolutely no excuse on why he can beat you...You have a turbo, it is so ridiculously easy to make more power with a turbo...Nevermind that thing having an I-6, you have a turbo...So when you get beat by the M3, which does not have a turbo, you are branded a loser by everyone...

But staying NA is on the other end...If you get crushed by a WRX, no one hackles you too much simply because the WRX is cheating...If you have a 190whp NA car (thats a good 10 or so on the stock WRX), and you manage to beat it...You are instantly granted immortality and infinite women forever...

I don't know, I am just rambling...But I get real tired of retardly powerful FWD eclipses and the like very quickly...A FWD turbo'd jugernaut that couldn't make good traction to save its life is stupid...

A well bred NA engine that sings to redline and has an amazing highend powerband is fun though...and I gain respect for those that invest the time and research to do it properly (especially those of you attempting it on the FS...since its even worse stock then most to begin with)...I have nothing against turbocharging though...just certain techniques...I don't care for crazy powerful FWD cars...Its fine in an EVO, WRX, or 240...But not in FWD economy cars...I had some parts ready for a high compression low boost setup, but ditched it last month...And I am definately going to go all out NA at least with this current engine...