Why not try this piggyback?

[Super Matty P]

hmm what have I brought to this forum that is positive.....hmm...probably the same stuff you have.

There are a few key people I like to argue with other than that I'm just like every other member here. Whats REALLY funny is that you're on their side so you don't see the fact that they are doing the exact same thing as me....just in a different direction. It's called hypocracy.

Same kind of hypocracy that told me if I wanted to sell supercharger kits on here I couldn't be a jerk or call people names and what-not....then MPNick calls me an asshole and it's ok. .......because he's their pony. But it's not ok for me.. See how that works?

 

[Bigg Tim]

You would think that someone with a GTS Viper would be picky on who does his car. So why take it to Nick if he doesn't know what he's doing? And since he doesn't know what he's doing, how can he be the one who is responsible for making one of the fastest all motor vipers on the east coast? Someone spending 20g's to have an intake mani done, would be picky with who does it!

So what have you done, came up with a SC that makes you lose your A/C, woooo?

 

[Super Matty P]

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Get your dick out of your mothers ass motherfucker. And now every post I shall be there. ******!


hahaha, OH NO!! negative feedback!!! and from such a smart person!! smart/cowardly...

 

[PR5Matt]

Will that do ignition on the proteges (unlike the normal SMT-6)? Will it have sensor calibration?


He is.


The MPI tuner works well for most depending on how it's used, but it does have it's limitations (all piggybacks do).

PerfectPower USA (IDA) gave me a big YES on the ignition control...

 

[Bigg Tim]

hmm what have I brought to this forum that is positive.....hmm...probably the same stuff you have.

There are a few key people I like to argue with other than that I'm just like every other member here. Whats REALLY funny is that you're on their side so you don't see the fact that they are doing the exact same thing as me....just in a different direction. It's called hypocracy.

Same kind of hypocracy that told me if I wanted to sell supercharger kits on here I couldn't be a jerk or call people names and what-not....then MPNick calls me an asshole and it's ok. .......because he's their pony. But it's not ok for me.. See how that works?

Nick is not the kind of guy that can take people being a dickhead and bashing his product, especially from someone who doesn't know s*** about it. He isn't going to kiss people's asses to get sales. That mean's he won't feed you s*** to get a sale too. I like that kind of business, someone who won't feed me s*** and tell's it like it is. He is a legit business, he has real customers to deal with and works on many types of cars. Not someone who makes 1 product and tries to sell the hell out of it because he aint got anything else.

 

[Focus]

hmm what have I brought to this forum that is positive.....hmm...probably the same stuff you have.

There are a few key people I like to argue with other than that I'm just like every other member here. Whats REALLY funny is that you're on their side so you don't see the fact that they are doing the exact same thing as me....just in a different direction. It's called hypocracy.

Same kind of hypocracy that told me if I wanted to sell supercharger kits on here I couldn't be a jerk or call people names and what-not....then MPNick calls me an asshole and it's ok. .......because he's their pony. But it's not ok for me.. See how that works?

If you want to see what I have done, you can use the search button.

As for this thread, I will tell you, I can and would be able to make any EMS work on my car. I know how to tune.

 

[PR5Matt]

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89799


http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90173

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91723

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91050


http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91289

Yes I see how great your car is running.

Over 50 pages of how you ****** up your car. The dumb ass you are still cannot fix it. Keep up the good work.

If you sell something at a higher price than they can get it somewhere else and then give bad support, they will be pissed off. If you want to continue to take their money, don't piss them off more.

 

[Bigg Tim]

PerfectPower USA (IDA) gave me a big YES on the ignition control...

Give it a shot. I told you how it worked for me. Bob doesn't have any protege's there to work on, nor has he worked on one. So how can he be sure it will work. I've been to his shop, he's a nice guy, but he doesn't know about the pro's. That's what he told Nick, Nick tired it and it didn't work. So he had changes made to make it work.

 

[Focus]

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AM I supposed to be impressed?

 

[Bigg Tim]

If you sell something at a higher price than they can get it somewhere else and then give bad support, they will be pissed off. If you want to continue to take their money, don't piss them off more.

The higher cost is because it is specifically FOR the protege. It's not a generic product, it was made to work with our cars and he gives excellent support. He paid money to get hardware changes on the box. He then had to pay mor emoney to get SW made to work with the HW. You can't get the same box from anyone other then Nick!

 

[Focus]

If you sell something at a higher price than they can get it somewhere else and then give bad support, they will be pissed off. If you want to continue to take their money, don't piss them off more.

You are missing the point, the support is not bad.

 

[PR5Matt]

Sorry, it just sounded like it here. I know it was for the PRO-M MAF conversion for the MERK (So glad we went to SDS!!!!).

No more bashing from me. I was just trying to provide some info. It just stikes me as poor business to get so worked up and to call people names. If you are a businessman then that is childish and stupid.

 

[Focus]

Sorry, it just sounded like it here. I know it was for the PRO-M MAF conversion for the MERK (So glad we went to SDS!!!!).

No more bashing from me. I was just trying to provide some info. It just stikes me as poor business to get so worked up and to call people names. If you are a businessman then that is childish and stupid.

I guess it's accumulated from a while.

Personally, if someone asks me for a little help, I will do anyhting I can to help them out.

But someone who just bashes, and says the product sucks and doesn't work, for sure will put me on the defensive.

At times I just want to give up completely on this site and all the animosity.

 

[Bigg Tim]

I have a Pro-M 80mm MAF and it is good for well more than 300whp. Nick did an MSP with one on it and he made 328whp at 15psi. He is now running more thean 20psi and still works.

I have never gotten any better customer service from anyone else. Nick lost a s*** of money on me because of someone else in the beginning. He could of said I was on my own, but he didn't and he helped me out. He has overnighted parts to me for free and calls me and asks how it's going. He is a hell of a guy and he runs a hell of a business. Also, Linuxrcr got a PRS-8 standalone computer a long time ago that was stollen from Nick. Linux offered to send it back to him, but he said no and tried to help instead. How cool is that?

 

[Bigg Tim]

I guess it's accumulated from a while.

Personally, if someone asks me for a little help, I will do anyhting I can to help them out.

But someone who just bashes, and says the product sucks and doesn't work, for sure will put me on the defensive.

At times I just want to give up completely on this site and all the animosity.

Been there man, I know how you feel. I didn't post very much for a long time because of the ignorance here. But now I have to help get it across that this thing works and he gives excellent support.

 

[Kooldino]

That's BS!!!! That's why someone who tunes only with the MAP sensor made 10 more whp then me with 3 more psi!!! Stock and xtra injectors tuning is the best way to do it. I don't know about you, but I would think 11psi versus 8psi would make more then 10 more whp!!

Are you talking about me here? If not, disregard this paragraph. If so, you're way off, man. First of all, I made 23 more whp than you. Second of all, I would have made more, but you know damn well what my problem was: I hit fuel cut, so I couldn't rev past 5K rpm. Gimme a break. To top it off, I had just gotten my motor back together THE NIGHT BEFORE THE DYNO. So excuse me if I didn't have time to have it well tuned before I showed up.

I fixed my fuel cut issue with a JoeP FCD. Thus, I was actually able to rev my car past 5K. That put me into the 13s. If we only had a small power difference between us, you'd be running faster than 15s in the quarter mile.

People need to give it up and admit when they screwed up. A broken IAT sensor, backwards MAF, dirty injectors, shorted out O2 are all issues that will mess with ANY EMS!

I agree, BUT he does have a point...I see more people have problems with the MPI than any other EMS on these forums. Might be because it's harder to tune, might just be because they're more popular? Who knows.

And who was this person who "knows" what they're doing with the MPI???? I don't think he knows as much as he and other people think! There's no way if he knew what he was doing that he couldn't of tuned the switch point out and made that car run perfect!!! That is unless the car had other issues!!!

Ok, this leads me to believe you weren't talking about me...because I had no problems with any kind of switch points.

 

[Kooldino]

PerfectPower USA (IDA) gave me a big YES on the ignition control...

So what would the total cost with a MAP sensor be?

 

[PR5Matt]

Give it a shot. I told you how it worked for me. Bob doesn't have any protege's there to work on, nor has he worked on one. So how can he be sure it will work. I've been to his shop, he's a nice guy, but he doesn't know about the pro's. That's what he told Nick, Nick tired it and it didn't work. So he had changes made to make it work.

I have plenty of tuning experience (even with piggybacks as I used to have a PMS on my 'stang which worked well but was sold to buy more parts and go the custom chip route, also have tuned with the TwEECer and the SDS), so I wanted to try it because I had heard good things and like the price.

 

[changedman]

this thread has turned into one big flame war

 

[Kooldino]

You are missing the point, the support is not bad.

That's true, MPNick is easier to get in touch with than a lot of vendors. If he doesn't pick up the phone, leave a message, and he'll usually call back.