Why not try this piggyback?

Who thinks this thread has gotten way off track and now suck really hardcore?


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TurfBurn said:
LOL.. the bitter relationships of msprotege.com.


Sides.. anybody can drive in a straight line really fast ;) which is all that much HP is good for!
That is a really good point. People are always talking about how our cars outhandle most cars on the road - and that's great. But while we can stick around the turn, the other car has the advantage of power getting them to the turn first, and being able to mash the throttle and see better accelleration out of said turn.
 
Super Matty P said:
You mean the FS motor thats been around for 10 years?!?!? New territory?? hahaha.
Check around for aftermarket parts - look at what's available for honda civics, and what's available for mazda proteges.

Yes, the aftermarket for these engines is "new territory". In effect, not researched fully, nor explored/exploited such as that which has been done for honda.

Come on man, put some more thoughts into your comments - I'm sitting here at work watching Sliders (season 2 episode - some odd dinosaur preserve is in San Fran) eating lunch, and posting on the forum - and I'm still disputing your comments effectively. Here, I'll help you out - I know dick compared to you on engines - try using that.
 
Kooldino said:
Well, whoever gets the most mileage wins. :)
I guess I won't win, cause I plan on changing bearings every year just before storing. Does that still count ?
 
MPNick said:
Dead wrong here. It takes the same amount of air flow to make the same amount of boost in the same engine.
I'm pretty sure I read something in Maximum Boost that contradicts that. You have to multiply psi by how much CFM that turbo flows per PSI.

BTW what about the J spec intake camshaft you were running. Did that not add power?
Yes, but the thing was that it added power where I couldn't rev to that day. It doesnt' really have any advantage over stock until past 6K RPM, which I couldn't rev to anyway. So I guess we'll see what kind of difference it made next time we dyno.
 
MPNick said:
In your own words. This does not mean anything without a dyno sheet.
Ahh, busting my balls from the "This Thread Is Worthless Without Dyno" thing, eh? You know that I wasn't the one who said that, right? I was just translating what Matty P said when he just wrote "TTIWWD". You're picking on the wrong guy.

Regardless, my word carries some weight around here since I've been around for awhile. People would more likely believe me if I said a product improved horsepower over a new user that no one knows.

Besides, I don't think that anyone would argue that my car would be faster once I was able to rev past 5K without hitting a brick wall. :p

Dyno Day?
Hell yeah. Let me get my new injector setup in an tuned (maybe about a month), and I'm good to go. Name the time, I know the place. (nana)
 
MPNick said:
Wake up man. That was the first Protege on this forum to make anywhere near that much power. If you think 328whp @ 15psi is not that good that good then wait a few more weeks. We will be the first Protge to make 400whp on this forum very soon.
I didn't say 328whp WASN'T good. I think it was. BUT, he did it on race gas. That's a HUGE advantage, that's my point. I want to see you guys tweak and tune it to get the most out of pump gas.

Cars running 116 octane are obviously going to make a lot more power.
 
MPNick said:
If I had tuned for it maybe. He had alot more timing out then anyone there.

280whp @12psi and pump gas is good to me.
See if you can beat Focus on pump gas next time. :D More boost?
 
Focus said:
I guess I won't win, cause I plan on changing bearings every year just before storing. Does that still count ?
It only really counts if oyu don't have to touch the bottom end.

I was thinking of doing the same thing though.

Which bearings, rod and crank?

Gonna take it apart every year to hit the machine shop?
 
Dissention among the ranks?

Yeah, I was the one who said "TTISWWD".....I notice there has still been no dyno. Kinda funny but I understand you guys have to pay a lot more than I do.

p.s. Race gas shouldn't even be considered unless you're building an allout race car. Anyone can make power it just depends on how muh you want to throw at uit.

p.p.s. In Tuscaloosa, AL is a guy with an orange P5. He made 500whp on a custom turbo with AEM. He also won some prize at NOPI in atlanta...MPNick is NOT the first to hit 400whp...nor will he be the first to hit 500whp...better start shooting for 600hp. I'm sure you guys are going to call b.s. on me so I'll get his contact info and let you taker it up with him. Maybe someone from Nopi atl will remember the orange widebody p5. He also entered a 600whp 1.6L civic..it was his wifes.
 
Super Matty P said:
Dissention among the ranks?

Yeah, I was the one who said "TTISWWD".....I notice there has still been no dyno. Kinda funny but I understand you guys have to pay a lot more than I do.

p.s. Race gas shouldn't even be considered unless you're building an allout race car. Anyone can make power it just depends on how muh you want to throw at uit.

p.p.s. In Tuscaloosa, AL is a guy with an orange P5. He made 500whp on a custom turbo with AEM. He also won some prize at NOPI in atlanta...MPNick is NOT the first to hit 400whp...nor will he be the first to hit 500whp...better start shooting for 600hp. I'm sure you guys are going to call b.s. on me so I'll get his contact info and let you taker it up with him. Maybe someone from Nopi atl will remember the orange widebody p5. He also entered a 600whp 1.6L civic..it was his wifes.
Streetable? -

ok, I'll take the bait. Please PM me his contact info. Or post it here. I'd like to look into this.
 
yes but was it streetable and did his turbo kick in before 3000rpms,(im the one nick was refering to)



Super Matty P said:
Dissention among the ranks?

Yeah, I was the one who said "TTISWWD".....I notice there has still been no dyno. Kinda funny but I understand you guys have to pay a lot more than I do.

p.s. Race gas shouldn't even be considered unless you're building an allout race car. Anyone can make power it just depends on how muh you want to throw at uit.

p.p.s. In Tuscaloosa, AL is a guy with an orange P5. He made 500whp on a custom turbo with AEM. He also won some prize at NOPI in atlanta...MPNick is NOT the first to hit 400whp...nor will he be the first to hit 500whp...better start shooting for 600hp. I'm sure you guys are going to call b.s. on me so I'll get his contact info and let you taker it up with him. Maybe someone from Nopi atl will remember the orange widebody p5. He also entered a 600whp 1.6L civic..it was his wifes.
 
this was a street car with full interior. I dunno about his tip-in time with the turbo but who gives a s***? No'one said anything aboutMPNick's spool time with his 400hp motor..

I pmmed the info to Micah. He'll get all the details and post them.
 
Super Matty P said:
this was a street car with full interior. I dunno about his tip-in time with the turbo but who gives a s***? No'one said anything aboutMPNick's spool time with his 400hp motor..

I pmmed the info to Micah. He'll get all the details and post them.
http://forums.bhamracing.com/showthread.php?p=329688#post329688

That's the link on their forum to the only mention I could find this guy making about the turbo protege. Apparently they used the e-manage. I left a comment in the thread - and I'm sending him a PM right now.
 
Super Matty P said:
MPNick is NOT the first to hit 400whp...nor will he be the first to hit 500whp...better start shooting for 600hp..
Read my post again please. I said the first to hit 400whp on this forum. I never said that it has not been done outside this forum. Anyway if he made 500whp I think that is great. Did you see him dyno there? Did you see his dyno sheet? He must be running high 10s.
 
Kooldino said:
I'm pretty sure I read something in Maximum Boost that contradicts that. You have to multiply psi by how much CFM that turbo flows per PSI.
Any given engine will take the same amount of air to build the same amount of boost at the same RPM.
 
Kooldino said:
Cars running 116 octane are obviously going to make a lot more power.
If they are tuned for it, they will make more power. If not they may in fact make less power. We had alot of timing removed from the car, so I do not think we gained as much as you think.

The million dollar question is can you make more peak WHP with C16 in your car? Just do not say yes right away, you may not be able to.
 
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