Who else has ordered the Microtech?
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your mp3 is much better looking, except those tail lights.
What kind of mods you do you have done now to be able to pull on an EVO(and turbo kit and boost level). I got smoked by one when i was running 4psi, i wonder how i would do now (im sure i would still loose)
What kind of mods you do you have done now to be able to pull on an EVO(and turbo kit and boost level). I got smoked by one when i was running 4psi, i wonder how i would do now (im sure i would still loose)
duMb KeoLa
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i dont know though....an evo here costs about 38500...you put 1500..thats 40 gs...theres a lot of room...about 23000 to work with on my protege if were looking at a price to price comparison...im not saying that i will ever beat a built evo..they just cost too damn much for me
No one is comparing price to price. He said its an evo killer. Sure almost any stock system can be matched by a highly modded lesser priced car. However you take away the restirctions the manufaturers have to built to by replacing the exhuast/intake/upping the boost and no way in hell a Protege will touch an evo. Its not amatter of car price + mods. Its a matter of just getting rid of some of the factory restrictions. Same can be said for the protege. You need about $1500 into it to get rid of the factory restrictions.
That being said by the time you have enough money into a protege to run with an evo even in stock form the reliability onthe protege has gone way down, not to mention the time and effort put into it.
To me, I find it best to compare any cars ability with $1500 into it to remove factory restirctions. Its that simple.
Also Evos are only about $32K here which is right with the RX-8 and less then the STI or 350Z.
That being said by the time you have enough money into a protege to run with an evo even in stock form the reliability onthe protege has gone way down, not to mention the time and effort put into it.
To me, I find it best to compare any cars ability with $1500 into it to remove factory restirctions. Its that simple.
Also Evos are only about $32K here which is right with the RX-8 and less then the STI or 350Z.
duMb KeoLa
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very true about reliability, but i think that with a stock protege, all you would need to do to accomplish an (stock) evo killer would be turbo kit, standalone system, 10-12psi bo0st and youre good..then again, on stock internals, youre looking at a 1000 mile engine life...lol
It is completely possible to beat an evo and a ferrari for that matter. It all comes down to will and all of what 1rst said.
Reliabilty and then frustration take over.
ANYONE who has built a protege and put the hours in like many people here will attest to all the times its "been under construction"
That was my only problem with the my econe project.
I will still attest that the protege 5 was the funnest car to convert to F/I
Reliabilty and then frustration take over.
ANYONE who has built a protege and put the hours in like many people here will attest to all the times its "been under construction"
That was my only problem with the my econe project.
I will still attest that the protege 5 was the funnest car to convert to F/I
duMb KeoLa
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yep....frustration is the worst...when youre waiting for parts to be fixed...i waited a month...that was the worst month in my life...im actually thinking of going evo...just no money 
Its funny, the only way I could get my MP3 out of the Building phase, was to buy another car!!!!
Damn leaks!
All I can say is my life stress and blood pressure our now back at normal levels. Bless that little p5 (usa)
So now I have a car I dumped alot of cash into and either have to dump in more or dump the car. Considering I pay $400 a month, evo looks mighty tempting
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Damn leaks!
All I can say is my life stress and blood pressure our now back at normal levels. Bless that little p5 (usa)
So now I have a car I dumped alot of cash into and either have to dump in more or dump the car. Considering I pay $400 a month, evo looks mighty tempting
.AFaceInTheCrowd
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well if you guys say that dumping all this cash into this econ car sucks sooo much... what do you have to say about these dudes that dump like 15grand into a 94 civic hatch? lets see... b series engine swap, turbo, rear disk conversion, front big brakes, racing seats, exhaust, body kits, hood, rims, suspension, paint(all those excentric colors i see everyday), chroming, and a whole lot more. i believe that the 94 civic hatch is THE greatest paradox of the import world.
when i see these guys with the fully worked civic hatch i always see them proudly showing off their car and not worried about "ehhh, it's still a civic" they don't give a flying f*ck about that.
when i see these guys with the fully worked civic hatch i always see them proudly showing off their car and not worried about "ehhh, it's still a civic" they don't give a flying f*ck about that.
Most of those people have daddy paying the bills or live in a damn trailor to afford the car mods.
It has nothing to do with being just a civic or just a Protege.
Its about how much can you really expect from the car and when it just doens't make sense to keep pushing it.
Building a car takes time and money and not many people have either.
Also you have to consider the second car you need to keep project one on jack stands for as long as it takes.
Once you consider I have a $19K car, then add the $5K in mods to get where it is along with the time put into it, then add in the cost of the second car I need to have the ability to work on the MP3, then add in the other $3K needed to make it run even close to say an evo... and you realize how unproductive it is to mod the protege.
Take the MSP as an example. YOu can get it for $17K now, then add the exhuast, clutch, upgraded intercooler, upgraded radiator, upgraded intake, probably even an upgraded turbo, boost guage, fuel guage, wide band, knock sensors, and engine management and sure your out running an evo, but you payed practicly what an evo buyer did and he spend ZERO time in the garage, or tweaking and tuning. Also keep in mind, he as only to spend maybe 1.5K and your a memory at the track again. Also at this point he is still has a far more reliable and drivable car.
You have to keep in mind there is absoluetly nothing on the protege designed to take 250 whp, NOTHING! That adds up to one huge realibilty risk.
It has nothing to do with being just a civic or just a Protege.
Its about how much can you really expect from the car and when it just doens't make sense to keep pushing it.
Building a car takes time and money and not many people have either.
Also you have to consider the second car you need to keep project one on jack stands for as long as it takes.
Once you consider I have a $19K car, then add the $5K in mods to get where it is along with the time put into it, then add in the cost of the second car I need to have the ability to work on the MP3, then add in the other $3K needed to make it run even close to say an evo... and you realize how unproductive it is to mod the protege.
Take the MSP as an example. YOu can get it for $17K now, then add the exhuast, clutch, upgraded intercooler, upgraded radiator, upgraded intake, probably even an upgraded turbo, boost guage, fuel guage, wide band, knock sensors, and engine management and sure your out running an evo, but you payed practicly what an evo buyer did and he spend ZERO time in the garage, or tweaking and tuning. Also keep in mind, he as only to spend maybe 1.5K and your a memory at the track again. Also at this point he is still has a far more reliable and drivable car.
You have to keep in mind there is absoluetly nothing on the protege designed to take 250 whp, NOTHING! That adds up to one huge realibilty risk.
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you took the words out of my mouth 1st
