Wheel Spacers

You're not going to convince me and I am not going to convince you. That's just the thing. And yes, actually the car turns a lot of heads when I drive it around. Some people like it and some people don't but it doesn't bother me either way. Making a car look cool is all about personal style and standing out from everyone else with the same car you have. It's about originality and form, not function. Iknow it's not a race car. My license plate is MZ3 FTL (Mazda3 for the loss) because I know this. That doesn't mean I won't make it look good though. It's not like I have to pay every week because something breaks but people who go to the extreme or even the moderately extreme with their vehicles know that you have go to pay to play the game. The same thing goes for performance cars. I sold my mx6 last year that had everything under the sun done to it but a turbo kit. It got to the point where it was unreliable and became expensive to maintain so I no longer drove the car and let it sit. I learned from the experience which is why my 3 doesn't have ridiculous amounts of work to the engine.

We all know that 9" wheels with 215 width tires on them are pretty much useless for anything but looks. A 215 is not even an improvement in handling on a wheel that could easily handle a 245 width tire. People install them because they fill up the fender well and because 9" wheels look better than 7" wheels. Low offset wheels have larger lips, more concave faces, and a better style to them.

The fact of the matter is that it is a style that you and many other people don't understand. It doesn't make the car unsafe unless you go to the extreme but I am not talking about the extreme. Having an offset 10-15mm lower than stock is not going to destroy the vehicle or make it unreliable or unable to drive. It may increase wear and tear but that is all relative anyway.
 

Well then, I guess we are at a stalemate. But at least our arguments, for and against, are out there for others to use to make up their own minds with.

 
Agreed. No hard feelings either. I just feel my way and you feel yours. There are 2 sides to every argument right?
 
you could go +35 if you wanted with 17" but with 18" hmm i dont see why +40 with some camber wouldnt be ok... for all the people that hate stance their minds are not going to change lol.. but this is what modding is all about doing what you like and what you think looks good! :)
 
Just for the record offset is useless unless you also mention wheel width. a 17x7 +40 fits a lot differently than a 17x9 +40.
 

Agreed. But I admit I was getting a little frustrated for a while there. And just when you seemed to be getting the context of what I was trying to tell you and the other readers, you did a 180 and doubled back on yourself.
Then again, it was waaayyy past my bedtime and I was certainly very tired.

And for the record (Kappa) I don't hate stance. Widening the stance has it's positive affects too, in the short term at least.
I don't hate appearance only mods either, though there are a few that I would never endorse. (Giant wings, tinted head/taillights, etc.) But both kind of mods have their place.
I just think that an owner or modifier (tuner, if you will) needs to think about all the ramifications and practicality of a given mod and base the decisions made on what the car is to be used for and how much they are willing to sacrifice in order to get it. THAT was my point all along.
This is why dedicated race cars aren't used as DD's (notice please that I said dedicated) and why they aren't driven on the street. Race cars live in a whole different world than street cars do... more so these days than they used to.
 
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Just for the record offset is useless unless you also mention wheel width. a 17x7 +40 fits a lot differently than a 17x9 +40.
this is a good point and i forgot to put that in there! haha

Agreed. But I admit I was getting a little frustrated for a while there. And just when you seemed to be getting the context of what I was trying to tell you and the other readers, you did a 180 and doubled back on yourself.
Then again, it was waaayyy past my bedtime and I was certainly very tired.

And for the record (Kappa) I don't hate stance. Widening the stance has it's positive affects too, in the short term at least.
I don't hate appearance only mods either, though there are a few that I would never endorse. (Giant wings, tinted head/taillights, etc.) But both kind of mods have their place.
I just think that an owner or modifier (tuner, if you will) needs to think about all the ramifications and practicality of a given mod and base the decisions made on what the car is to be used for and how much they are willing to sacrifice in order to get it. THAT was my point all along.
This is why dedicated race cars aren't used as DD's (notice please that I said dedicated) and why they aren't driven on the street. Race cars live in a whole different world than street cars do... more so these days than they used to.

i wasnt really talking about you haha..
 

I think you are both confusing back spacing w/offset.
Offset remains constant but affects back spacing when comparing a wider wheel to a narrower one. In other words, you may need to add more negative offset to gain clearance for a wider wheel.
 
We're on the same page here. It's just two sides of the same coin again. Offset and backspacing go hand in hand. Adding negative offset adds backspace on the same width wheel. If you start with a 17x7 +42 and change out for a 17x7 +35 you'll push the wheel 7mm further out toward the fender and increase backspace by 7mm. A 17x7 +42 and 17x9 +42 will sit the same distance from the wheel hub but the difference in widths is going to change backspacing as well as fender clearance. You'd pick up 25.4mm (roughly an inch right?) on either side of the wheel which will probably have clearance issues somewhere. If you go with a lower offset wheel for clearance you get into the suspension and handling changes we were talking about last night, right?
 

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