What I need to boost @ 15 psi? Hi-Boost check here too ;)

[Greensleeper]

I'm very seriously thinking of passing on the Dark Side. N/A is fun and reliable yes, but slow lol... For 2006, as my sig says, i'm upgrading the car to withstand the rigors of boosting. I will probably use a standard Hi-Boost kit with the ''+10 psi'' package. I know most of the parts needed to acheived 1 bar of boost daily (15 psi).

As i'm planning my budget, please help me with my kit. I'm surely missing some parts...

- All of the parts in my signature. I will not change cams of p/p the head. I want a 'stock' FS with the US-spec midrange cams.

- Hi-Boost Standard kit (duh) upgraded with 440cc RC injectors and Haltech E6X, all of this provided and programmed by Juan.

- Forged rods (probably Crower or Oliver) and forged pistons (idealy CP 8.5:1).

Now the questions:

1- Do I need to upgrade the fuel system (rail, lines, pump)?

2- Will the MSP LSD be able to control the power or should I stay with the stocker and savec cash for a $$$$ Quaife?

Thanx for all of your advices!

 

[A.V.MSP]

you will need a pump at least and I would probably upgrade the rail as well. And the LSD just save up for the Quaife cuz people are budting the MSPs like crazy

 

[HiBoost TS]

Let me give you a good advise in what to get so you do not spend more than you need.


-Turbo kit
- Upgrade to E6X with bigger injectors
- Forged rods and pistons ( we have both Pauter or Crower rods and stock Mazda or CP pistons both with 8.5 CR)
- Better clutch
- No need to upgrade the fuel pump or fuel rail. They are good up to 350 WHP
- LSD and I would prefer Quaiffe and we can get them.

I also want to let you know that the kit is getting better and better every time. It now comes with a bigger intercooler. The core is 24x7 x3 made in USA and with polished cast aluminum end tanks.

 

[gimpo2]

hey jaun, how much is a Quaiffe?

 

[Greensleeper]

THANX JUAN!

Does the E6X come pre-programmed to 15 psi? Can I run pump gas up to this (I always have filled the car with 94)? For the 8.5:1 Mazda pistons, are they forged and cheaper than the CP?

Thanx again!

 

[HiBoost TS]

THANX JUAN!

Does the E6X come pre-programmed to 15 psi? Can I run pump gas up to this (I always have filled the car with 94)? For the 8.5:1 Mazda pistons, are they forged and cheaper than the CP?

Thanx again!

I have a customer running 16 psi daily with the Mazda 8.5 to 1 CR pistons and Pauter rods on 93 octane and with F10X in Miami. The price difference is not that much, but stock pitons are a lot quieter than the forged CPs. The Pauter/mazda combo is $1,200 while the Pauter/CP or Crower/CP is 1,395.00. These prices include the piston rings.

Now, if you are going with the internals, there is no need for the E6X upgrade as the stock timing is perfect on the lower compression setup. This will allow to run 15 psi on 94 octane and up to 24 on race fuel.

Juan

 

[HiBoost TS]

hey jaun, how much is a Quaiffe?

I can PM you with the price on Monday.

 

[Greensleeper]

Thanx Juan!

So, what is the cost for a setup like this:

Standard turbo kit, F10X, RC 440 injectors, Pauter rods and Mazda low comp pistons (BTW, from what car are they from? Are they used?)?

Lastly, the upgraded IC is still a superb Spearco core, right?

You can PM me your anser.

Thanx again!

 

[Chibana]

I have a customer running 16 psi daily with the Mazda 8.5 to 1 CR pistons and Pauter rods on 93 octane and with F10X in Miami. The price difference is not that much, but stock pitons are a lot quieter than the forged CPs. The Pauter/mazda combo is $1,200 while the Pauter/CP or Crower/CP is 1,395.00. These prices include the piston rings.

Now, if you are going with the internals, there is no need for the E6X upgrade as the stock timing is perfect on the lower compression setup. This will allow to run 15 psi on 94 octane and up to 24 on race fuel.

Juan

Juan, do you recommend a lighter flywheel with your tubo kit--good, bad, or indifferent?

 

[low_psi]

Juan, are the stock re-machined pistons coated? Please PM me the price for a set. How much power is safe to run with these? Thanks

 

[HiBoost TS]

Thanx Juan!

So, what is the cost for a setup like this:

Standard turbo kit, F10X, RC 440 injectors, Pauter rods and Mazda low comp pistons (BTW, from what car are they from? Are they used?)?

Lastly, the upgraded IC is still a superb Spearco core, right?

You can PM me your anser.

Thanx again!

The core is still a Spearco core with flow capbilities for up to 600 HP. The pistons are brand new Mazda pistons that we machine to lower the compression ratio and also make the grooves to fit the lock pins to allow the use of floating wrist pins usen in the forged rods. The stock rods are press fitted and that is why they do not have the grooves.

These pistons are being used in our 300+ WHP protege, in Kasmann's 325 WHP Ford Linx (Protege model in Malaysia), Toronto YP5 in toronto, Owen's car in Miami running 15 psi daily and some other people running good numbers in their cars.

 

[HiBoost TS]

Juan, do you recommend a lighter flywheel with your tubo kit--good, bad, or indifferent?

I like the stock flywheel on turbo cars. I would use it in N/A for faster acceleration. The stock flywheel keeps a good idle and good street use. The power is not a big difference. I have a couple of customers running our kit in Mazda3s. The one with stock flywheel and stock clutch made more HP than the one with light flywheel, race clutch, etc.

I run stock flywheel, stock engine mounts and organic clutch disc and still make 12.5 at the 1/4 mile and this keeps all the components from blowing. The springs in the clutch disc, the movement of the engine and the inertia of the flywheel absorb a lot of energy during launching and shifting, therefore keeping the drive shafts, tranny, from breaking.

 

[HiBoost TS]

Juan, are the stock re-machined pistons coated? Please PM me the price for a set. How much power is safe to run with these? Thanks

The pistons can be coated on special order. We get a ceramic coat on top and teflon coat on the skirts. We have tested these up to 330 WHP and Kasman is making 325 WHP. This numbers are on good fuel and with perfect maping. A bad tune, too advanced timing or bad fuel will kill any piston.

Are going with forged rods?

 

[HiBoost TS]

Here are a couple of pictures of the new intercooler that will be included standard in all our Protege5, MP3 turbo kits.

 

[Greensleeper]

Damn Juan you are killing me! lol!

So a Standard kit with pistons (Mazda)/rods (Pauter)/F10X/Haltech boost controller/RC 440's will cost about 6000$, right?

Well, it will take me a year to make all this money...

 

[HiBoost TS]

Damn Juan you are killing me! lol!

So a Standard kit with pistons (Mazda)/rods (Pauter)/F10X/Haltech boost controller/RC 440's will cost about 6000$, right?

Well, it will take me a year to make all this money...

Exactly $5,520.00 plus freight

 

[Greensleeper]

Not bad at all!

Now I gotta work harder!

Thanx Juan!

---- BTW, when your Miami shop is gonna be open? I got family in this area!

 

[low_psi]

The pistons can be coated on special order. We get a ceramic coat on top and teflon coat on the skirts. We have tested these up to 330 WHP and Kasman is making 325 WHP. This numbers are on good fuel and with perfect maping. A bad tune, too advanced timing or bad fuel will kill any piston.

Are going with forged rods?

Yea, my worry is detonation is going to have a more pronounced affect on the stock cast pistons whereas the forged can handle it a little better before grenading. I will be using forged rods, looking to make 300whp max... no big numbers for me. Can you please PM me prices on the stock pistons, coated and uncoated? Also, OEM rings are used correct? Can you get the OEM pistons with a slight overbore?

 

[JDM Sam]

You will love the hiboost kit.

 

[HiBoost TS]

Not bad at all!

Now I gotta work harder!

Thanx Juan!

---- BTW, when your Miami shop is gonna be open? I got family in this area!

It is open for business.

5930 NW 99 Ave Unit 9
Miami Florida 33178