Warning about Perrin SRI

[rocketspeed]

Little background- bought one last October, went from AEM intake (ran fine), car always stalled with the Perrin. Perrin revised the design and had folks cut off the nipple where the BPV attached and stick the little plastic elbow in differently so it blew away from the MAF. Still stalled all the time.

Perrin admitted the design is flawed and promised a re-design. I've saved all of these emails and can post them if folks want to see them.

Asked me to keep a lid on my problem since it was "bad for sales" and I did so since I figured they'd fix it and we'd all get back on track.

Anyway, this was 5 months ago. I've been emailing them regularly and keep getting put off. Back in Feb I was told its arrival was imminent, but no dice. They've stopped replying to emails now, so I figured I'd give folks a heads up.

There are a few folks running this intake successfully, although I think they all run either a dual bpv/bov or FMIC, which seems to be the right combo for whatever reason. I'm otherwise stock. Any other folks running mostly stock cars with the Perrin successfully?

Anyway, just be warned before you buy if you're considering it. You may or may not get a functional part.

I've been running an Injen successfully since Oct.

 

[rocketspeed]

One other thing- its been a $150 or so piece of clutter in my garage these past 5 months.

 

[daedalus]

wow that sux. I'm sorry to hear that. I'm going to be running dual bpv/bov setup but i feel your pain. Perrin should chime in on this.

 

[rocketspeed]

If they'd have replied to emails the past couple weeks and kept me in the loop (as they had initally), I wouldn't gripe, but they've gone radio silent. I'm not saying they are bad guys or a bad company, just saying you should be aware of this situation before you spend $150 for a part that might or might not cause your msp to run like crap.

 

[jflo]

good looking out

 

[TX Speed Demon]

Probably stalls cause the stock BPV is too weak and doesn't push enough air to prevent the blowback. Or perhaps your 90degree elbow is not facing the correct way and forcing the air away from the turbo. I've had no issues with the Perrin once I started recirculating the Greddy Type S

 

[rocketspeed]

90 degree elbow is definately facing the right way. Definately installed properly too. No trouble with either the AEM or Injen intake on my car- its something specific to the design of the Perrin.

 

[b00sted]

i just installed my perrin sri today actually and im running dual setup on stock pipes..took it for a quick spin and no problems yet. hopefully all stays well, and i have to add that my turbo spools up alot quicker now too. so no complaints from me yet..

 

[rocketspeed]

My theory with the dual setup is that it prevents enough blow back from reaching the MAF that it doesn't freak out. The specific problem here is pressure blowing back across the MAF. The MAF doesn't know whether air flows in or out, so it sends a signal to the ECU thinking there's all kinds of air coming across it, the MAF dumps fuel to compensate and you stall when the BPV activates.

 

[FSDET]

i used it with the stock BPV and no additional BOVs or BPVs and it ran perfect just like my injen or stock air box. no stalling issues what so ever. i ran that setup for a couple of months before i sold i the intake to a local guy that was running the dual setup. and i sold it cuz the FMIC kit that i bought came with the intake. i dont see how ur stalling i mean with that 90 degree elbow thers no way that the air can go back to the MAF and make ur car stall. anyways good luck and hope u get the problem solved.

 

[rocketspeed]

I've talked to Perrin about it 100x. Everything is installed right and I'm not a noob.

 

[jurgs01]

That's weird that they wouldn't respond to your e-mails. I had a little fit problem with my exhaust. They paid for shipping of the mid-pipe both ways and put a flex pipe in (quality). They even welded in a free extra o2 bung for my wideband for the inconvience. I have nothing but good things to say about them.

 

[FSDET]

I've talked to Perrin about it 100x. Everything is installed right and I'm not a noob.

yeah i dont know why urs is stalling. i dont mean to be an ass but if there sri doesnt stall on there test car and other customer cars thers not much they can do.. did u try to put back the stock intake back ?

 

[Brian MP5T]

Holy Crap. Sucks, Sorry to hear. This might get their interest...

 

[benimal]

yeah i dont know why urs is stalling. i dont mean to be an ass but if there sri doesnt stall on there test car and other customer cars thers not much they can do.. did u try to put back the stock intake back ?

Yes but if Perrin is admitting in an email that they are aware that the design is flawed, as rocketspeed stated in his first post, then that implies that they are aware of the problem. If Perrins comments re: the design flaw are true (and understand we are all hearing this second hand) that right there can be construed as an admission of poor customer service at the very least.

I think ultimately we need Perrin to weigh in here. There's three sides to every story. I have no reason to doubt rocketspeed. I'm sure Perrin has their side as well. Somewhere in between is the truth....

Ben

 

[FSDET]

Yes but if Perrin is admitting in an email that they are aware that the design is flawed, as rocketspeed stated in his first post, then that implies that they are aware of the problem. If Perrins comments re: the design flaw are true (and understand we are all hearing this second hand) that right there can be construed as an admission of poor customer service at the very least.

I think ultimately we need Perrin to weigh in here. There's three sides to every story. I have no reason to doubt rocketspeed. I'm sure Perrin has their side as well. Somewhere in between is the truth....

Ben

true im not doubting rocketspeed. but the design was flawed and that "fix" made it perfect for me and the guy that i sold the intake to (but he was running the bovv/bpv setup so that a diffrent case)

 

[Saban]

Waiting to see Perrin chime in...and get there side of the story. Hope everything works out though...

 

[rocketspeed]

I posted my theory about why it doesn't work for me, but that's just a theory. Anyway, the car runs perfectly with the stock airbox, the AEM or the Injen intake installed. I've run all three at different times. It runs like crap with the Perrin.

Here's an email from them, copied and pasted verbatim. The date is 10/26/04.


"Regarding your intake, I hope you can drive on it for a month or so while we
change the intake tube. Instead of using the plastic 90 on the inside for
the BOV entry, we are going to run the nipple at an angle to the tube. At
that point we also might move the nipple closer to the turbo to help with
your situation. There are 2 things we are going to try:
-Angling the nipple to the tube, and moving it closer to the turbo.
-possibly making the tube longer to add more volume to help with your same
issue."

 

[rocketspeed]

Remember here, I'm not saying Perrin is a bad company or bad guys, just that its been forever (5 months) to get them to help me and that they've now stopped respoding to emails (3 over the past two weeks).

They previously had been reasonably responsive and had kept me up to date on progress. I'm worried now that I won't ever get a working part and that I'm out the dough since I couldn't even sell it to someone else in good concience.

 

[Saban]

Maybe they have been working on something awesome for our cars for the past months and they have been so busy working that they have stopped replying to emails....YEAH RIGHT!!

Would be nice to have more parts from Perrin though.