johnsharpe
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JunkPunch said:
Only so you can do this with it...
http://www.protege5.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43171
Viper-powered Ram SRT-10
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Only so you can do this with it...
http://www.protege5.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43171
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Look at the diesel spewing from that truck, that's not right man. Fast truck though. And I have a neighbor that used to own a Ford truck a few years ago with a dual rear axel(dually), and he had it chiped with propane injection. And wow was it fast, he used to pull smokies every time he left for work(which was usually when I was getting home from skool), it was sweet. Then it died, and now he's werking on a Dodge Dakota( alot smaller, but still fast)
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SenorCorwin said:
wow, the new dodges have hemi's?
anyway, those dodges aren't pushing out +600hpTurbo Matty P
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I think you guys have missed the point of my previous posts about the lightning vs srt-10.
'05 Lightning - $33K 12s quarter mile with 5.4L supercharged V8....supercharger and ford EEC allows for VERY easy modification with huge gains..
'05 SRT-10 - $50K+ 12s quarter mile with NA V-10. As previously posted $20K+ only made 500hp & 528lb/ft.
Ford has already announced their new Lightning will make 500hp and just as much torque. They will also include the new supercooler technology which ford just patented. This basically uses the exsisting AC to store a freezing charge of air to be dumped into the motor when the pedal hits WOT. This has been proven to make over 50whp on this particular motor. This is basically a factory nitrous kit that never needs filling and recharges itself in 2 minutes. It also lasts about 30 seconds. This is enough for 2 passes down the quarter mile before taking a 2 minute pause to refill.....
Let's break it down further....What could you do with the $17K+ difference in price between the two trucks? Also, people who think that the SRT-10 is a re-skinned Viper are retarded. Ever try to steer a Dodge truck? Let's just say that the lightning is VERY track-capable from the factory. Also the new lightning will have the IRS from the Cobra-R. I can only imagine what would happen between the two trucks on the track.
Dodge makes great deisel trucks. No doubt in straight line those heavily modified desiel turbo trucks can outrun a lightning or a srt-10. That's one of the advantages of forced induction is it's boost-a-bility. It's much easier to make more power out of a boosted engine than NA engine. Ford has ruled the performance truck market for so long I don't see someone jumping in and stealing their thunder anytime soon......besides, who wants to pay for tires for a 24" rim?? Too much bling, not enough zing!
'05 Lightning - $33K 12s quarter mile with 5.4L supercharged V8....supercharger and ford EEC allows for VERY easy modification with huge gains..
'05 SRT-10 - $50K+ 12s quarter mile with NA V-10. As previously posted $20K+ only made 500hp & 528lb/ft.
Ford has already announced their new Lightning will make 500hp and just as much torque. They will also include the new supercooler technology which ford just patented. This basically uses the exsisting AC to store a freezing charge of air to be dumped into the motor when the pedal hits WOT. This has been proven to make over 50whp on this particular motor. This is basically a factory nitrous kit that never needs filling and recharges itself in 2 minutes. It also lasts about 30 seconds. This is enough for 2 passes down the quarter mile before taking a 2 minute pause to refill.....
Let's break it down further....What could you do with the $17K+ difference in price between the two trucks? Also, people who think that the SRT-10 is a re-skinned Viper are retarded. Ever try to steer a Dodge truck? Let's just say that the lightning is VERY track-capable from the factory. Also the new lightning will have the IRS from the Cobra-R. I can only imagine what would happen between the two trucks on the track.
Dodge makes great deisel trucks. No doubt in straight line those heavily modified desiel turbo trucks can outrun a lightning or a srt-10. That's one of the advantages of forced induction is it's boost-a-bility. It's much easier to make more power out of a boosted engine than NA engine. Ford has ruled the performance truck market for so long I don't see someone jumping in and stealing their thunder anytime soon......besides, who wants to pay for tires for a 24" rim?? Too much bling, not enough zing!
As far as chevy getting in to this battle, Jon Moss has made mention of a SS Silverado using the 2005 corvette engine and tranny but with the last few piles of s*** that carried the SS badging, who cares?
Please sign me up for that WONDERFUL new $55K Ram Truck I'll park it in the garage with my Lincoln Blackwood, my 281 Saleen and all my other ridiculously overpriced overhyped rides.
Please sign me up for that WONDERFUL new $55K Ram Truck
I'll park it in the garage with my Lincoln Blackwood, my 281 Saleen and all my other ridiculously overpriced overhyped rides.
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Turbo Matty P
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Yeah, Chevy is a waste! The MSP will outrun the 6.0L AWD Silverado SS 0-60.
GM is really screwing things up lately. Anyone see that SSR?? What a pile of turds. The Cavalier....uh I mean Cobalt looks to be ass also. The best, most hope-inspiring vehicle they have in the wings is the Pontiac Solstice. 2 seater roadster with the supercharged ecotec 2.2L RWD.....they are saying $20K for a base model....I'm betting it'll option out more in the $28K range for the supercharged model. Will it be fast, sure....will it look good....the concept does.....will it be a good value....probably not.
GM is really screwing things up lately. Anyone see that SSR?? What a pile of turds. The Cavalier....uh I mean Cobalt looks to be ass also. The best, most hope-inspiring vehicle they have in the wings is the Pontiac Solstice. 2 seater roadster with the supercharged ecotec 2.2L RWD.....they are saying $20K for a base model....I'm betting it'll option out more in the $28K range for the supercharged model. Will it be fast, sure....will it look good....the concept does.....will it be a good value....probably not.
Turbo Matty P
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Gotta bump for this....straight from the mouth of MotorTrend Jan 2004 issue.
2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10
engine: 8.3L V-10
valve gear : 2valves / cylinder
Max HP : 500@5600rpm
Max torque: 525@4200rpm
Specific Output : 60.2 hp/L ( SUCKS!!)
Power/weight : 10.3lb/hp (ROCKS!!)
weight distribution: 55:45
transmission: 6spd-floor shifted (IMO sucks!)
0-60 : 5.2s
1/4mile : 13.86mph @ 101.49
braking 60-0 : 122ft. (not an issue for me)
600ft slalom : 62.3mph
base price : $45K
p.a.t. : $46.2K
mpg : 10/14 (hahaha, what a value!)
You guys HAVE to realize how crappy this thing is now?? Who is going to pay $46K for a HIGH 13s quarter mile?? Whats the upside??
2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10
engine: 8.3L V-10
valve gear : 2valves / cylinder
Max HP : 500@5600rpm
Max torque: 525@4200rpm
Specific Output : 60.2 hp/L ( SUCKS!!)
Power/weight : 10.3lb/hp (ROCKS!!)
weight distribution: 55:45
transmission: 6spd-floor shifted (IMO sucks!)
0-60 : 5.2s
1/4mile : 13.86mph @ 101.49
braking 60-0 : 122ft. (not an issue for me)
600ft slalom : 62.3mph
base price : $45K
p.a.t. : $46.2K
mpg : 10/14 (hahaha, what a value!)
You guys HAVE to realize how crappy this thing is now?? Who is going to pay $46K for a HIGH 13s quarter mile?? Whats the upside??
Turbo Matty P
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FWIW, my 1990 Ford taurus runs an estimated 13.2s in the quarter.....cost me less than $3K for the car and everything. It was a nice car. Good paint job, full leather interior and loaded option-wise, great on insurance, and got 28mpg! I'd rather drive that taurus around town with a pocket full of $41K.
the point is you can still use the SRT-10 to haul s*** around..let me know how well your fiberglass rear-end holds up on the lightning. sure its fast..thank god its cheap because it would have no purpose at all if it was in the same price range as the ram. both are ridiculous..but the ram is still functional.
Turbo Matty P
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Where are you getting your information from?? The lightning has the same bed as the factory F-150. I have a buddy with 2 different generation Lightnings and he uses his first gen (351C NA) for loading the bed and his newer 2nd gen for hauling two sead-doos. He could easily load the bed, but prefers not to damage the beauty that is a 13s automatic truck.
redwagon02
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Oh yeah, i don't even have a lightning, but i pull my ZXi-1100 w/ a 4x4 durango.
A friend of mine has a white lightning. It has like a mini-short bed. He can't really tow much with it. Like I said, its not a very functional "truck" Any of you have trucks? I've driven trucks for the majority of my life and there are a few things they have to be able to do to call them a truck. Maintain some sort of off-road readiness, ready for all-seasons, and have the ability to throw s*** in the bed and forget it. The lightning. Forget it. Its ultra-low to the ground, reliable as a 12 year old in the marines, and well..its a damn ford. The SRT, although the price tag, is a full clearance durable truck that just so happens to have an ass-load of power. Sure, i'd probably get a 2500 diesel first, but still. Its a hard ass truck with hard ass power. period. that. and ford sucks.
Turbo Matty P
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Wow, it's hard to argue with that logic .
Here goes:
Your friend can't tow with his because of the bed? Tell the dumbass not to drag stuff with his bumper. If you attach it to a trailer hitch it works better.
Yes the Lightning is low to the ground. The Lightning is 2 vehicles in 1. It's a hotrod and a hauler. 60%hotrod and 40%hauler. If you need a work truck you don't buy a lightning. No'one that buys the SRT-10 is going to use it as a work truck either. Also, how funstional do you think those 24" ultra low profile tires are going be off-road? You made this point just to be argumenative.
If you don't like the Ford because it's a ford just say it. The fact remains that this currentr model Lightning will still outrun the new SRT-10. Now the new model Lightning that will come out in '05 will be even faster. I feel bad for potential SRT-10 owners. I think the SRT-4 owners pose a bigger threat to the Lightning than the Ram.
.Here goes:
Your friend can't tow with his because of the bed? Tell the dumbass not to drag stuff with his bumper. If you attach it to a trailer hitch it works better.
Yes the Lightning is low to the ground. The Lightning is 2 vehicles in 1. It's a hotrod and a hauler. 60%hotrod and 40%hauler. If you need a work truck you don't buy a lightning. No'one that buys the SRT-10 is going to use it as a work truck either. Also, how funstional do you think those 24" ultra low profile tires are going be off-road? You made this point just to be argumenative.
If you don't like the Ford because it's a ford just say it. The fact remains that this currentr model Lightning will still outrun the new SRT-10. Now the new model Lightning that will come out in '05 will be even faster. I feel bad for potential SRT-10 owners. I think the SRT-4 owners pose a bigger threat to the Lightning than the Ram.
Turbo Matty P said:
I guess Car and Driver got some better performance numbers then....this is from the Feb 2004 issue:
0-60: 4.9 sec
Street Start 5-60: 5.7 sec
1/4 Mile: 13.6@105
Top Speed: 153 (drag limited)
Braking 70-0: 184 ft
Skidpad: .86g
Wheels: 10"x22"
Tires: Pirelli Scorpion 305/40/ZR22
Price as tested: $45,795
The 22" wheels made production rather than the 24"
chino said:
Exactly...My truck has just as much potential and can tow a 5th wheel if need be. Mine has a 16,000lb towing capacity which is limited by the tire load rating and not the diesel engine. Not to mention, I get no less than 18MPG on a bad day around town or on the highway.
