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Mine has 0 problems going up hills with cargo area packed and 4 passengers. Also turbo engines perform better at altitude then naturally aspirated engines.
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Mine has 0 problems going up hills with cargo area packed and 4 passengers. Also turbo engines perform better at altitude then naturally aspirated engines.
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Not to be critical of you in particular, but I just cannot understand why anyone would buy a brand new car, and then trade it in after only 2-3 years.
Regardless of what kind of vehicle it is, that has got to be the most expensive way to be a car owner.
If you're only going to keep a car for a few years, instead of buying new, I suggest you buy a slightly used vehicle.
Buying a one year old low mileage car is probably the most economical way to go.
Someone else has already eaten the first year of depreciation, plus you don't have to pay for any extras, like freight and delivery charges,
but you still get a mostly new car, and it will still be under warranty.
Example: My 2006 Altima was a demonstrator with 7,000 kms (about 4K miles) on it when I bought it.
They knocked off $6K from the new car price.
Same thing when I bought my 2002 Pathfinder....(which I still have.)
It was a daily rental that had about 10K miles on it. I saved $10K on that one.
When I'm ready to buy, I'll look for the same situation, even though I'll probably keep my new vehicle for at least 10 years.
NelsonLewis
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This is true, however, they have to work twice as hard to do so. Wonder how much heat soak that stock intercooler can take?
This guy Mango again? He makes statements that show he doesn't know jack sh#t about logically defensible statements. I'm not even going to go into the statistical confounds of self-report bias, small ns, etc. Next...
NelsonLewis
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He doesn't bother me, I'm not a Mazda fanboy.
You clearly haven't seen enough of his posts lol. But I don't wanna turn this into that kind of discussion.
Mazda will have to eventually add a turbo. Diesel isn't gonna sell that well and they're gonna need to stay competitive.
NelsonLewis
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Read every one of his post. I agree with you on the diesel and adding a petrol turbo. Heck I think I was the first to say the diesel IMO wouldn't sell well, and I got belittled and told I was spreading false information. Lol
Nah I think you're right. People who actually need a diesel probably aren't getting a little cuv. There will of course be a certain crowd that will love the combination but as a whole, the 2.5T would have been so much better. Again it's all about staying competitive especially a small company like Mazda.
NelsonLewis
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Well, they are on a nice sized small engine platform with the 2.5,so they could easily squeeze 30-40 NA hp more out of it safely, and that could do the trick as well...
Of course they need to compete. When there's competition, there's so much more growth in technology. That's why I'm glad Honda really stepped it up this year. That is one heck of an cuv and if I was buying today, I would 100% test drive the crv. Mazda now needs to fire back and further improve their cx5. Improve mpg, bring AA/carplay, more power to their engines, etc. You know, strive to get even better. Compete!
Pressure for all makes to improve is a good thing. However, here's my take on the CR-V vs. CX-5 debate (I've driven both): The Honda brings to the table some nice things (so does Mazda (e.g., the HUD and a power passenger seat that's height adjustable)). But, those things came with a price. That price is a vehicle that feels like it was engineered by accountants. It feels like corners were obviously cut to make a price point (an example is a cheap-feeling interior). The new CX-5 feels like people who care about creating great cars (not giant smartphones on wheels) were in charge of its development, not bean counters. The CX-5 brings a unique mix of best in class driving dynamics with a truly premium feel. In some ways, Mazda Premium really leaps over Acura. Honda, well, doesn't. Mazda shows the spirit that Honda had 25+ years ago when the latter still built class-above cars. Mazda will get my money next year (a CX-5 GT AWD in Eternal Blue); Honda won't. Since so much of what's on this forum is opinion (even if some folks paint them as facts), you can take mine or leave it. G'Night!
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Sure they can squeeze more HP out of that 2.5 NA motor but it will come at a cost of fuel economy. The new CX-5 adds 3 HP(I'm guessing to compensate for the extra sound deadening) but ended up with slightly worse fuel economy. All of Mazda's competitors(Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Ford, etc...) will continue investing billions in new engines/transmissions to stick in their vehicles(RAV4, Tucson, LCI CR-V) that will only increase fuel economy and that gap will only continue to widen when compared to the CX-5.
They absolutely need more turbo engines, they won't survive without them seeing as how they offer no electric/hybrid vehicles. That and the ever increasing EPA fuel regulations is why nearly every auto company has switches over to Turbo/Hybrid. And IMO the new diesel they plan on sticking in the CX-5 will be DOA once it is released here in the states. People generally are not a fan of diesels here and the whole VW/Dieselgate only makes it worse. I read recently Mercedes-Benz will stop offering diesels completely here in the states. Might succeed in other parts of the world though...
It will be interesting to see how their SkyAvtic 2 technology with HCCI develops. I just don't know how confident the public will be in purchasing a vehicle based on an engine technology that no one has ever successfully gotten working.
I honestly think Mazda will end up getting swallowed up by some giant auto company like Toyota or Honda. Maybe they will merge with Subaru. There's just no way they can continue to compete when it's competitors are in investing billions in electric/autonomous technology.
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NelsonLewis
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You don't have to tell me about the diesel as I'm totally against it. It's a waste of time and money IMO, and it comes with a premium price tag. Time will tell...
As for "sure they can get 30-40 hp out of the 2.5 but It will come at a cost of fuel economy". I disagree, as I can tune it myself now to gain that and get better fuel economy than it gets now. If I can do it, then Mazda surely can, probably safer and with a warranty to boot too...
As for turbos, I love turbos, I was really hoping for the 2.5T, say no more. I tried to convince the gal not to buy the CX-5 because it didn't have one, but nothing else was comparable that did (the Lexus NX is overpriced and not great IMO). The CRV was not an option, however, I do like Hondas. They have been the best overall car to me
Over the years, and it should be easy to see why...
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Yup, it is much easier to block the nutjobs but when people keep feeding them, you are pulled in.
