Tune out steering angle based boost?

[mattj3636]

crashing on a motorcycle with or without a helmet is a lot different than stopping in a car with or without ABS...especially during the summer on dry land

 

[ericrapp]

Matsuda cares about our safety and rightly so. But i do wonder what unplugging this would affect in actual driving exp. On a closed course in a scientific method of course. Say, attacking the cones in an open space. but i do not think i will be the one to attempt it!

 

[dkswim]

matt can you pm me a pic of the connector your talking about. im curious to do some testing with it...

 

[mattj3636]

lol i wouldnt do this at an autocross because of the constant hard braking, you never know in that situation, and ehhhhhhhhhhh, i dont have a camera

 

[ericrapp]

Careful

matt can you pm me a pic of the connector your talking about. im curious to do some testing with it...

Let the games begin! Just be smart as i know you will DKS(rei)

 

[maestro]

After talking with Tim Bailey a bit, it seems that you could indeed tune out the "torque clamp" as there is a function in the ECU that switches maps to the "low torque" map for a given steering angle.

DO NOT unplug your steering angle sensor as this will disable other things like ABS and stability control. The trick would then be to raise the torque limits in the low torque maps. Your tuner can do this, or you can try doing this in ATR.

Travis
COBB Tuning

And this is why custom tunes with the AP are worth the money. Tim tuned out my lean spot and improved the mileage a bit with a map tuned to 17 lbs of boost. The torque is a bit more managable and I tend to leave the DSC on more than I used to as the car behaves better.

 

[matsuda]

crashing on a motorcycle with or without a helmet is a lot different than stopping in a car with or without ABS...especially during the summer on dry land

You might drive for 10 years and not use the ABS or DSC once. But...

You never know when you might be caught by surprise, especially when pushing it on unfamiliar roads. You can't anticipate a panic situation but it could happen at any time.

 

[GoFast]

lol i wouldnt do this at an autocross because of the constant hard braking, you never know in that situation, and ehhhhhhhhhhh, i dont have a camera

ahhh yes, let's make sure that our all of our safety systems are in good working order in a controlled environment like an auto-x or race track, and lets disable them for the streets where you never know what could happen....brilliant my friend.

I suppose this level of thinking does coinside with the whole VTA is cool even though I lose some performance because it sounds cool thing.

At any rate, disconnecting that plug is absolutely wreckelss, stupid, and dangerous. For all you non ricers out there who are actualyl concerned with your well being....DO NOT DISCONNECT YOU STEERING ANGLE SENSOR!!

 

[mattj3636]

hahaha, and actually bro ham, i didnt do it cause it sounds cool, i did it becuase when i bought the corksport FMIC, they didnt have the recirc option yet. so i had to.

nice try though

 

[GoFast]

 

[mattj3636]

ohh wow so cause you run recirc your the ultimate badass and you do everything right and im stupid for running VTA! Yeah! arent you supposed to be a moderator? haha

your doing a great job fool. let me do what i want to my car and stop criticizing, im happy with disconnecting that connector for one ******* day, and im happy with running VTA and dont see a performance loss according to cars i have beaten before and after and dyno sheets.

so leave me be and go actually moderate something

 

[GoFast]

ohh wow so cause you run recirc your the ultimate badass and you do everything right and im stupid for running VTA! Yeah! arent you supposed to be a moderator? haha

your doing a great job fool. let me do what i want to my car and stop criticizing, im happy with disconnecting that connector for one ******* day, and im happy with running VTA and dont see a performance loss according to cars i have beaten before and after and dyno sheets.

so leave me be and go actually moderate something

Yes I am a moderator, so what? I am not allowed to call someone out when they are doing something incredibly reckless like completely eliminating a steering angle sensor because "i never slam on my brakes to cause ABS to engage in the summer anyways.. im not worried about it."

Here is the deal. You can be a ricer all you want, it is your prerogative. If you want to claim that your car runs better in VTA, then go for it. You can even keep claiming that your proof is in all the cars that you have beaten and also in the dyno sheets that you can't post for whatever reason. However, comments and logic that is ricer'ish, dangerous, and immature like the ones you have posted in this thread are the reason why vendors don't want to develop things for the MS3. They are the reason that COBB almost quit all MS3 projects. They are the reason that the rest of the car world look at us MS3 owners like we are driving and srt-4. You are making us look bad dude.

 

[mattj3636]

hmm, when did i say it runs better? i said it runs just like how it did stock.

and im maknig us look bad by running VTA and by disconnecting a connector for seriouisly about 5 hours just to see full boost around turns...

im making us look bad for doing that?

theres many other people doing much more "ricer-ish" things than that... im not the only one running VTA, and in my case, i didnt have a choice, and yeah i can swap out the inlet pipe now if i wanted, but since my car runs fnie with it, not BETTER but fine, i decide not to..that makes my car ricer? cause i have a VTA bov? im not doing it just for the sound, im doing it cause im lazy to order the diff inlet pipe from corksport acuse i have no reason to. yeah i like the sound, but recirc BPV also make loud sounds too?

and disconnecting the steering angle sensor for one day makes me ricer and makes us look bad? cause i wanted to see how it was? jesus dude, you need to calm down. sorry it offends you im running VTA, and quite frankly, if it does, thats pretty pathetic, be happy with your own car, dont worry about mine.

 

[Wurf]

On a similar note, tuning out the steering angle power limitation seems like a rather unsafe thing to do unless maybe you track the car and run wider, stickier track tires. For autocross and track use OK, but on the street, might not be wise. I can already throttle on understeer this car in a turn pretty easily in some situations. I can just see somebody making this mod to their car and shooting right through a corner into ditch or a tree or whatever.

 

[MSMS3]

ahhh yes, let's make sure that our all of our safety systems are in good working order in a controlled environment like an auto-x or race track, and lets disable them for the streets where you never know what could happen....brilliant my friend.

I suppose this level of thinking does coinside with the whole VTA is cool even though I lose some performance because it sounds cool thing.

At any rate, disconnecting that plug is absolutely wreckelss, stupid, and dangerous. For all you non ricers out there who are actualyl concerned with your well being....DO NOT DISCONNECT YOU STEERING ANGLE SENSOR!!

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[fastdreams]

At the tracks I run at, with DSC off, I have more power than I can use to power out of the tighter corners. I fight with wheel spin through the tight corners. Sometimes I use the wheel spin to put the car where I want it on corner exit. My frustration in these corners is that I have FWD.

So it could be that I need to go to race rubber to experience this as an actual issue that slows me down. Right now I use 235/45-17 dunlop direzza star specs. 2nd gear turns with the wheel turned (obviously) is plenty to overwhelm the tires. These corners become a matter of perfect entry/exit and patience.

The more open corners I'm in 3rd or 4th anyway so it's not an issue.

If I got back into autocross I would probably be more annoyed as it's all tight turns! But I'm not interested after enjoying my modded wrx at autocross, I don't want to fight a fwd car in that environment. The MS3 is too much fun at the open track.