Tranny issues...PLEASE HELP.

Holy thread. . .as stated several times (but I thought I would chime in since the picture posted is of my transmission). You need a speedo sensor (the plug with the white gear that goes into the transmission). There was one of these on your LX tranny. There is not one on the MSP tranny, but one can be put in by removing the "plug" that is in the speedo sensor spot.

As for machining the diff to accept the pink speedo gear. That is an option, but difficult unless you have a machine shop in your garage. Instead (as already pointed out), use a dremel to remove just enough material to press the pink gear on to the MSP differential. Then with that pink gear, the sensor with the white gear, and your stock wiring harness. . .you're ready to go.
 
miss_steele_msp said:
Im not mad And I wasn't implying anything. I was just showing you a pic so you could get an idea of what you needed and where it goes. So that piece that turfburn posted and the pink ring and you should be set. I hope that cleared things up for you. good luck.
yes it did. misunderstandings happen all the time. thank you for your help. sorry i misunderstood you.
 
I can't fricken read at the rate this thread is moving..

the white gear is on the sensor... you shouldn't need it seperate.
 
Little Beavis said:
Holy thread. . .as stated several times (but I thought I would chime in since the picture posted is of my transmission). You need a speedo sensor (the plug with the white gear that goes into the transmission). There was one of these on your LX tranny. There is not one on the MSP tranny, but one can be put in by removing the "plug" that is in the speedo sensor spot.

As for machining the diff to accept the pink speedo gear. That is an option, but difficult unless you have a machine shop in your garage. Instead (as already pointed out), use a dremel to remove just enough material to press the pink gear on to the MSP differential. Then with that pink gear, the sensor with the white gear, and your stock wiring harness. . .you're ready to go.
do you have a picture by chance. of what the dremel actually HAS to be used to do? i'd like to be very specific before i attempt this.
 
TurfBurn said:
I can't fricken read at the rate this thread is moving..

the white gear is on the sensor... you shouldn't need it seperate.
lol. thanks for your help steve.

everyone as well
 
clarification... I'm not sure which way Beavis is referencing the dremel as some people used it on the diff itself. I've sinced switched to doing it differently. I just use a utility knife and chamfer the "down" edge of the speedo gear a bit and then it'll fit fine when you press the bearing on. Easy as that.

I can get you stock Mazda parts if you need... just let me know which ones you want and I can have them ready to ship within 1-2 days.

Later,

Steve
 
boostdprotegelx said:
do you have a picture by chance. of what the dremel actually HAS to be used to do? i'd like to be very specific before i attempt this.

That's relatively simple... you have to grind it down enough that when you put the speedo gear on the little chamfers in the feet that will be toward the bearing need to be level with the shoulder on the diff that the bearing can be pressed down to. That's it.
 
TurfBurn said:
That's relatively simple... you have to grind it down enough that when you put the speedo gear on the little chamfers in the feet that will be toward the bearing need to be level with the shoulder on the diff that the bearing can be pressed down to. That's it.
lol. that's explained like it were meant for someone that actually knows what parts are called..(argh) lol nice try. sorry i suck at life.
 
In the end this will make sense when you have the lsd, the ring gear and the speed sensor in your hand. You can have the speed sensor for $35 shipped.
 
Dang, what a thread! Sorry the guage cluster didn't work out for you Damian. I guess you have a new project now, huh!? And you thought the msp swap would be easy... :rolleyes:
 
CustomMSP said:
In the end this will make sense when you have the lsd, the ring gear and the speed sensor in your hand. You can have the speed sensor for $35 shipped.
ok cool. i have to get the money together. or. you can send and i'll send the money shortly.(this week) either way. i could use it. i'd like to do the tranny MAYBE this week

does anyone know how hard a 5th gear is to chage?
 
Pink = speedo gear. White with black border = part of differential. Yellow = part you have to grind out of the diff or the gear in order for the gear to sit down flush on the differential.
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Holy s***, hold your breath for a second or two at least. . .

Keep in mind this is just a "cut-away" of the gear and differential that are both round objects. So, if you cut them both in half and looked at one end, it would be similar to this picture.
 
LOL at this thread.

Damian, the msp LSD has a "lip" that prevents the pink speedo gear from going on flush (as shown in the pic with yellow). You can remove that material from the LSD like I had done, of chamffer the pink gear to go over it.
 
CrazyCaker said:
LOL at this thread.

Damian, the msp LSD has a "lip" that prevents the pink speedo gear from going on flush (as shown in the pic with yellow). You can remove that material from the LSD like I had done, of chamffer the pink gear to go over it.
so you're saying remove the yellow from the white gear. or remove from the pink gear, what would be, the yello?
 
CrazyCaker said:
LOL at this thread.

Damian, the msp LSD has a "lip" that prevents the pink speedo gear from going on flush (as shown in the pic with yellow). You can remove that material from the LSD like I had done, of chamffer the pink gear to go over it.
why do you laugh at my thread?
 
boostdprotegelx said:
so you're saying remove the yellow from the white gear. or remove from the pink gear, what would be, the yello?

exactly. Once you have the LSD and the pink gear in front of you it'll all make much more sense.
 
Kansei said:
exactly. Once you have the LSD and the pink gear in front of you it'll all make much more sense.
gotcha. well. i guess we're settled then. now i just have to remove the tranny. fix the 5th gear or w/e. and do this. let's see how it all works out.
 
In my drawing, the "white" part is the differential - not the white gear. Do not remove anything from the white gear of the sensor (I hope that isn't what you're asking). You need to remove the yellow shaded area (which is part of the differential), or you need to remove a similar shaped portion of the pink gear so that it sits over the yellow shaded portion of the differential.
 

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