MPThree117
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Anyone know of any superchargers being developed at the moment? I would love to get my hands on one instead of a turbo.....
Supercharger??
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MPThree117
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How much more would a supercharger cost in relation to a turbo?
aphat01mp3
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if i had my choice i would get the supercharger before i would a turbo
if anyone can find out anything i would
be willing to put money on one
if anyone can find out anything i would
be willing to put money on one
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Superchargers, depending on design, can be cheaper (Jackson Racing) or about the same price as a turbo.
Personally, I would want a roots type blower (Jackson Racing), not a centrifigal blower (Vortech).
But, remember, it'll be tough to get companies to build stuff for the MP3 becuase of the small market. Less than 1500 cars means a company would have to charge a lot for the kit just to make up for R&D and development time. Not to mention manufacturing costs.
Personally, I would want a roots type blower (Jackson Racing), not a centrifigal blower (Vortech).
But, remember, it'll be tough to get companies to build stuff for the MP3 becuase of the small market. Less than 1500 cars means a company would have to charge a lot for the kit just to make up for R&D and development time. Not to mention manufacturing costs.
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Yeah, I know that, but is it really that much bigger?? I wonder how many people are actually interested in a supercharger v. a turbo, and how many will actually buy.
However, one thing on our (the customer's) side is that reputable companies keep the e-mail they get requesting parts. They keep track of how people want what. Then the company decides, when there is enough interest, to look into making the parts, they actually start figuring things out.
So, getting people to send the right e-mail to the right place helps a lot. But there in lies the biggest problem. Everybody asks for the same thing differently.
MPThree117
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well, so far the hype around here has been around turbos....If we got a supercharger plan rolling then I think the interest will be sparked
One bonus of superchargers, they are usually cheaper to INSTALL and many can do one themselves. It all depends if the blower is self oiling or if you have to drill the oil pan. One final bonus is that you can use any aftermarket header due to the fact that you aren't cutting into the exhaust at all with a supercharger
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Matthew Harcourt
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true, true. but-w/ a supercharger, you are always under boost, whereas w/ a turbo, you spool up anywhere between 3000 to 4000 rpm-meaning you can drive "normal" without ever being under boost, meaning less strain on the engine-it's all depends on how you look at the big pic.
I'm leaning more towards a turbo if I was to boost my MP3. Reason being that you can continue to build with a turbo. It would depend on how much your motor can handle, where as with a Supercharger (depending on what style of supercharger of course), you are somewhat limited. 
On a supercharger boost is directly linked to engine rpm. Instead of running off of exhaust pressure, the blower is forcing air in by a pulley attached to the engine. It runs like all other engine accessories like the alternator. At idle very little boost is created, but as rpms rise boost rises instantly, no turbo lag at all. Supers can be tweaked just like a turbo. To increase boost you change the pulley to a smaller size.
Either way they are both forced induction, just two ways to do it.
Later guys
GO RAMS!
Either way they are both forced induction, just two ways to do it.
Later guys
GO RAMS!
MPThree117
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so does anyone know how to get a project rolling?
People,
I heard that Thomas Knight Turbos has something that may be of interest to us. Check them out at:
Knight Turbo Web Page
I heard that Thomas Knight Turbos has something that may be of interest to us. Check them out at:
Knight Turbo Web Page
MPThree117
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hmm that is interesting!
MPThree117
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as could i!
As far as the "always under boost" thing o a supercharger:
Jackson Racing's (I know - no plans for the Protege's) charger for he Miata has a vacuum-activated bypass for the unit - under normal driving, the airflow circumvents the charger "spool", with most of the air going direct to the throttle body, for better longevity, fuel economy, and less strain on the engine and charger. Under heavier throttle, the vacuum valve opens, sending the intake charge through the charger for the forced induction. Sounds like a nice design, but I've heard at least one person say that the quality and fitment for he Miata isn't as good as it could be, especially for the price.
Still, I used to drool over them when I had my '93.
Jackson Racing's (I know - no plans for the Protege's) charger for he Miata has a vacuum-activated bypass for the unit - under normal driving, the airflow circumvents the charger "spool", with most of the air going direct to the throttle body, for better longevity, fuel economy, and less strain on the engine and charger. Under heavier throttle, the vacuum valve opens, sending the intake charge through the charger for the forced induction. Sounds like a nice design, but I've heard at least one person say that the quality and fitment for he Miata isn't as good as it could be, especially for the price.
Still, I used to drool over them when I had my '93.
