Strange Check Engine Light Issues

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I have a 13' Touring model with 54,100 miles on it and Ive been having weird issues with the check engine light coming on,first it was a P0882 which I found out came up due to a loose battery cable,I tightened both positive and negative just in case and erased the codes.I drove it for 50 miles and ran perfectly.But when I turn the car to the ON position(engine off) the check engine light appears steady for 10 or so seconds then blinks 7 times and then remains steady again.That happens every time the car is in the ON position(engine off). Once the engine is turned on the light goes away.Could this be the BCM possibly going bad?(All the electronics seem to be working fine though). Or could it be the ECM just relearning its parameters since I disconnected the battery cable.Any input?
Thanks!
 
CEL only comes on for a triggered code or if you have something plugged into the OBD2 port and are interfacing with it (such as ECU flashing). What are you using to check codes? Our ECU also stores "pending" codes which don't trigger a CEL but may indicate an abnormal condition that it is trying to predict.
 
CEL only comes on for a triggered code or if you have something plugged into the OBD2 port and are interfacing with it (such as ECU flashing). What are you using to check codes? Our ECU also stores "pending" codes which don't trigger a CEL but may indicate an abnormal condition that it is trying to predict.
Im just using a regular OBD-II scan tool but it also takes live data which I took a look at but never altered or anything.Only erased the previous code I got.Im trying to upload a video of what im talking about but this forum is confusing on how to upload it.
 
never had any issue with it on a 2013 or 2015 it's mainly just a read only but torque has all kinds of pids in it. IDK if torque is on iphone
 
never had any issue with it on a 2013 or 2015 it's mainly just a read only but torque has all kinds of pids in it. IDK if torque is on iphone
Ill most likely buy it then.But what do you think I should do about this strange light?Should I ignore it since its only when its in the ON position and no light appears when its running?
 
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I have a 13' Touring model with 54,100 miles on it and Ive been having weird issues with the check engine light coming on,first it was a P0882 which I found out came up due to a loose battery cable,I tightened both positive and negative just in case and erased the codes.I drove it for 50 miles and ran perfectly.But when I turn the car to the ON position(engine off) the check engine light appears steady for 10 or so seconds then blinks 7 times and then remains steady again.That happens every time the car is in the ON position(engine off). Once the engine is turned on the light goes away.Could this be the BCM possibly going bad?(All the electronics seem to be working fine though). Or could it be the ECM just relearning its parameters since I disconnected the battery cable.Any input?
Thanks!

Did you by any chance recently replace the plugs with ones that don't meet factory specs? I believe your check engine light may be warning of detected engine misfire.
 
Did you by any chance recently replace the plugs with ones that don't meet factory specs? I believe your check engine light may be warning of detected engine misfire.
How would you know that without knowing the code it threw?
 
I personally am not familiar with that sequence of cel/flashing. If it's not triggering while driving it's not enough to trigger limp mode, however I would check the fail safe modes below to see if any of those apply to you. Here is what I got from the SVC manual on that code. I would get the dongle and the torque app ($5 for pro) as it shows more codes and is always being updated. It also can be used to monitor a bunch of other things.

P0882:00 Illuminated —
TCM (transmission control module) power
supply voltage
low
1 C
(See DTC
P0882:00
[FW6AEL,
FW6AXEL

2015 - CX-5 - Transmission/Transaxle
DTC P0882:00 [FW6A-EL, FW6AX-EL]
DTC P0882:00 TCM power supply voltage low
DETECTION
CONDITION

l Under the following conditions, the TCM power supply voltage is 8—10.5 V or less (varies with ATF temperature):
n 5 s or more has elapsed or battery voltage exceeds 11 V or more for 0.2 s since engine speed increases
-200 rpm or more of target idle speed.
n Selector lever position is D or R position.
Diagnostic support note
l The check engine light illuminates if the TCM detects the above malfunction condition during the first drive cycle.
l The automatic transaxle warning light does not illuminate.
l PENDING CODE is available.
l FREEZE FRAME DATA is available.
l DTC is stored in the TCM memory.

FAIL-SAFE
FUNCTION

l Set to emergency mode.
l Inhibits learning control.
l Inhibits manual mode.
l Inhibits neutral idle control.
l Inhibits AAS.
l PCM DTC is stored.
l Battery malfunction
l Generator malfunction
l TCM connector or terminals malfunction
l TCM power supply circuit malfunction
n Short to ground in wiring harness between AT 15 A fuse and TCM terminal A
n AT 15 A fuse malfunction
n Open circuit in wiring harness between battery positive terminal and TCM terminal A
SYSTEM
WIRING




What I got from this that you can do by yourself (and without having the torque app to see if there is a sending code as outlined), before you pay $100 at the stealership for them to diagnose it, with pretty much no chance of messing something up if you are scared of working on your own car. At least if you find something it may save you time/money if you do have to go there.
1.Look into the front area of the motor (from the top) and see if it looks like any fluid (at) is sitting on the belly pan.
2. Check the AT 15 amp fuse and make sure it's not blown or otherwise damaged
3. If needed, take some canned air to exposed connector ends around the ECU/fuse box
4. Check the battery it may be on it's way out (add distilled water if needed, clean terminal if needed wd40 works).
5. Check the grounds near the shock towers for crud/loose wire, they are painted from the factory and sometimes it's actually painted in the threads too (mine were).
 
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BTW I got a digital download and CD of the service manual on ebay for $10. Oh and since it's possible about the AT, if you look on the right side of the motor between the engine, battery and fire wall there is a long tube sticking up with a white cap on it. If it's clogged with s*** (it will be on the outside in plain view), wipe it because it's a vent for the trans.
 
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BTW I got a digital download and CD of the service manual on ebay for $10. Oh and since it's possible about the AT, if you look on the right side of the motor between the engine, battery and fire wall there is a long tube sticking up with a white cap on it. If it's clogged with s*** (it will be on the outside in plain view), wipe it because it's a vent for the trans.
Would you mind taking a picture of this area,if you can?
 
Did you by any chance recently replace the plugs with ones that don't meet factory specs? I believe your check engine light may be warning of detected engine misfire.
I did not do anything to the plugs.The light only appears in the ON position when the engine is OFF like I said in the opening post.Once I turn the engine ON the light goes away.Im trying to get a video to explain the situation.
 
I personally am not familiar with that sequence of cel/flashing. If it's not triggering while driving it's not enough to trigger limp mode, however I would check the fail safe modes below to see if any of those apply to you. Here is what I got from the SVC manual on that code. I would get the dongle and the torque app ($5 for pro) as it shows more codes and is always being updated. It also can be used to monitor a bunch of other things.

P0882:00 Illuminated —
TCM (transmission control module) power
supply voltage
low
1 C
(See DTC
P0882:00
[FW6AEL,
FW6AXEL

2015 - CX-5 - Transmission/Transaxle
DTC P0882:00 [FW6A-EL, FW6AX-EL]
DTC P0882:00 TCM power supply voltage low
DETECTION
CONDITION

l Under the following conditions, the TCM power supply voltage is 8—10.5 V or less (varies with ATF temperature):
n 5 s or more has elapsed or battery voltage exceeds 11 V or more for 0.2 s since engine speed increases
-200 rpm or more of target idle speed.
n Selector lever position is D or R position.
Diagnostic support note
l The check engine light illuminates if the TCM detects the above malfunction condition during the first drive cycle.
l The automatic transaxle warning light does not illuminate.
l PENDING CODE is available.
l FREEZE FRAME DATA is available.
l DTC is stored in the TCM memory.

FAIL-SAFE
FUNCTION

l Set to emergency mode.
l Inhibits learning control.
l Inhibits manual mode.
l Inhibits neutral idle control.
l Inhibits AAS.
l PCM DTC is stored.
l Battery malfunction
l Generator malfunction
l TCM connector or terminals malfunction
l TCM power supply circuit malfunction
n Short to ground in wiring harness between AT 15 A fuse and TCM terminal A
n AT 15 A fuse malfunction
n Open circuit in wiring harness between battery positive terminal and TCM terminal A
SYSTEM
WIRING




What I got from this that you can do by yourself (and without having the torque app to see if there is a sending code as outlined), before you pay $100 at the stealership for them to diagnose it, with pretty much no chance of messing something up if you are scared of working on your own car. At least if you find something it may save you time/money if you do have to go there.
1.Look into the front area of the motor (from the top) and see if it looks like any fluid (at) is sitting on the belly pan.
2. Check the AT 15 amp fuse and make sure it's not blown or otherwise damaged
3. If needed, take some canned air to exposed connector ends around the ECU/fuse box
4. Check the battery it may be on it's way out (add distilled water if needed, clean terminal if needed wd40 works).
5. Check the grounds near the shock towers for crud/loose wire, they are painted from the factory and sometimes it's actually painted in the threads too (mine were).

Thats exactly what I used and the first thing I did which was a listed solution was to check if the battery terminal was loose for the P0882 code.I already fixed that issue.Its driving fine now.I erased the code.Im just confused about this blinking light.A video of what im talking about is coming shortly I promise!
 
Condition of the battery?
Last time I checked it was before I had the P0882 problem.It was in good condition.The alternator charged it right up and it held a charge.The initial voltage was around 12.6.Ill check it again soon and keep you posted.
 
I just wiped it with a fuzzy rag.. I was going to try to take it off but I figured any crud in there will make its way out (as it does)
 
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