Steamed!!

[Speedy_Guy00]

congrats

 

[TampaBlackMSP]

the new gti is the same 170hp but the 20th anniversay is 180 and that s*** is HOTTT... but way overpriced.

Someone probably already pointed this out, but your statement isn't true. All 1.8T's make 180 hp stock, regardless of which VW model, Anniversary or otherwise. The other two choices are the 201 hp 24v VR6, or the 'R32' VR6 - 237hp...

 

[Imissmy3rdgen7]

(werd)

 

[ForceFed]

I have to say no on the MAF as I have yet to hit a defite cut and I have had the car up there with the turbo a few times. 137 I believe.

NO!
I am positive on the people thinking the car has a speed limiter and they are mistaking that for the "CUT".
To be honest,I don't know of any of the MP3's ever doing what the MSP is doing in relation to the "CUT"
I am sure there is some design differnce between the MSP and the MP3 in sensors or somehow in the ECU that makes the MSP have this problem and not the MP3's.It also helps with the fact that you are running LESS boost than any MSP but I would be curious to see the airflow characteristics of your particular turbo compared to that of our T-25.All of this is strictly based on airflow and how much of it you are moving at any given time.Maybe you have never moved enough air through your motor to create this cut,I know I have.But then again lets look at power numbers??
What did you run your 1/4 in?JUST CURIOUS (no flaming)I want to get a comparison of your trap speeds so we can calculate some airflow numbers.
Matt

 

[1sty]

I would wager that at 8 PSI on a T3 with 60 trim (I think thats what we have) That I am moving more air then the T25 at 12 PSI of boost. IF its the MAF bottoming out and we have the same MAF then the results would be the same. Now there is the possibility that mazda built in a timing cut to the PCM at a certain airflow as a high speed run in an MSP would be far more dangerious to th emotor then the other proteges even if they are only able to reach the same speed.

I have not run a 1/4 mile in this car yet so no numbers to report. I should after Friday. However I have never been to a drag strip with a standard, and only once otherwise, so I am not a good candidtate to get numbers from.

 

[ForceFed]

I would wager that at 8 PSI on a T3 with 60 trim (I think thats what we have) That I am moving more air then the T25 at 12 PSI of boost. IF its the MAF bottoming out and we have the same MAF then the results would be the same. Now there is the possibility that mazda built in a timing cut to the PCM at a certain airflow as a high speed run in an MSP would be far more dangerious to th emotor then the other proteges even if they are only able to reach the same speed.

Thats exactly what i am trying to say!
I think something between the MSP and the MP3 HAS to be different just for the simple fact that NO MP3 Turbo has EVER experienced the "CUT"!Only the MSP.I would also assume that you guy's are pushing more airflow than we are given the type of turbo and trim level.I wonder what is different about them to create this nice little problem for all of us MSP owners?Hmmmm????
Matt

 

[ForceFed]

O O O !!!!
I wonder if it lies in the MAP sensor?
Do the MP3's have a MAP sensor also?
If they do,I wonder if it is the same part?
If it isn't ,I wonder how the MSP would react with the MP3's sensor on it?
Just something to consider?
I just had a brainstorm and had to type it quickly or I would forget about it!
Matt

 

[projectzoom]

was it a 1.8t or a vr6

 

[Speedy_Guy00]

thats a good thought but are we sure that the numbers match up on the MAF?

 

[Sparkz28SS]

how about this....


the s2000 is slow.....and the fact that it can spin to 9,000 rpms does not do it anygood because the first 5,000 rpms dont do s***...it has no tq..

the 350z is a little better....at least it feels like it is doing something when you hit the gas....and it does not feel like a buzz saw..

all in all..... the both are slow...

 

[big_ben]

Do they still make those awesome Camaros?

No, must have been because it was an ugly POS.

I rest my case.

By the way, I have owned many camaros. Not bad for a 4banger.