Soon to be first time Mazda owner

The Mitsuibishi space star starts at 12k USD - but... I would never buy a small car as primary.
Right now I have the Hyundai I30 and also a Volvo Valp 1967, Swedish off-road military car.
 
CX-5um: thank you. Regarding the danish butter cookies, that is a good question. And to be honest - I'm not that much into them, so i think I'm really bad at answering that ;)

Unobtanium: Welcome to the danish taxes :-) The BMW X5 is indeed a very nice ride - but in Denmark the cheapest model costs 168.000USD
We pay 180% taxes on cars :-(

I think Denmark (except for big cities where they are more convenient) is one of the only countries where the biggest market is mini cars, for example the Hyundai I10, 1.0l 66bhp (http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5odeLpZhnPo/maxresdefault.jpg)
The Mazda3 is 10k USD more expensive in DK than the CX5 in US.

I'd walk. No kidding.
 
:-) It's an old military radio communication vehicle.

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For $82K USD?

NICELY equipped: https://www.bmw.de/de/neufahrzeuge/x/x5/2013/start.html

How is this even a question!? You've lost your damn mind if you buy that CX-5 for $73,000 Euro

ETA: Or do you mean ANY vehicle is marked up like that? Hell, I won't lie, I'd bike.

Well, if you biked you would probably be healthier and happier while increasing your earning potential. Only problem for you, bicycles and personal carry are not that compatible.

Keep in mind that money spent is relative to how much you make. The average monthly salary in Denmark is over $6,600 USD and they only average 33.6 hours/week vs. 41.5 hours/week in US). Further, the US spends nearly twice as much per capita on healthcare and the results are worse when measured by almost any available metric. Denmark has a higher average lifespan, more vacation time and a well managed and well-funded pension system which relies less on personal savings to effect a quality retirement than the US's SS system.

So it's like comparing apples and bananas. Americans must pinch pennies because they have relatively low wages, expensive healthcare and need to save more for retirement (all while working more hours with less vacation time to enjoy whatever expendable income you do have).
 
Hi,

I'm getting real close to a final decision to buy my first Mazda. I'm located in Denmark, so our names differs slightly from yours - but I'm looking into the Mazda CX5 2.5L Optimum w/adaptive cruise control+navigation. (I think this equals yours 2016 GT w/ tech package)
The retail pricing here in Denmark is close to 82.000USD, stupid taxes (180%)

Its very often to read on these forums, that if people in the US was able to get the Diesel version they would have gone with this - how come? Is it purely for the much higher torque?
I don't need the extra torgue - but I am looking for the most "fun" version to drive. Anyone got any experience wether to go with the Diesel or patrol.

I'll most likely going to sign the papers on wednesday and can then expect 4-6months of delivery.

I have driven all versions, owned the 150ps diesel for 3 years and now own the 175ps diesel for 6 months. I have test driven the 2.0 manual and the 2.5 Auto. The 2.0 was fun, needed revs to get any performance but that didn't matter so much, was still fun for an SUV. The 2.5 was not good imo, I know this can piss of our friends from across the water but the auto box killed the fun factor for me. Any need for acceleration saw the box kicking down one or two gears. Now if you are used to this, it is maybe totally acceptable, if you are not (like me) then it is very off putting. If the 2.5 came in a manual, this would be a different story altogether, I think that would be a really good car. It has the speed once the revs built, no doubt about it. I would have went for this if it had a manual box I think.

One the diesel, please don't think you are getting much more performance with the 175ps. I really struggle to feel any difference. To be completly honest, the 150ps felt quicker! Why, well, the gearing in the 175ps is much longer, so if you are sitting at 50 km/h in 4th gear and put your foot down, the 150ps pulled away quicker, because the revs were slightly higher and meant that the turbo lag was less. Granted once both cars get into mid revs the 175ps is probably the quicker car, but for me I much preferred the gearing of the 150ps.

The only reason I would by the 175ps would be if that had the additional spec that you needed, like 19" alloys, leather etc. That's why I bought it. As for fun, the torque is addictive, it can certainly add a fun factor. It is also a quiet engine and revs freely. Beware though that some new 175ps models have a high pitched noise from the engine once it is warm, meaning after 20 mins drive (some time after the blue temp light goes out) so if you get a chance, have a good 30 minute test drive.

Test drive as many as you can, fun factor is different for everybody. My CX5 is the wifes car, my daily car is a Mazda 2 1.3l manual, about 83ps (the slow version), I rev it and beat most things on the road (not hard in Switzerland with the steady drivers here), it's fun in it's own, like a go kart really.

I haven't read the whole thread so appologies if you have made up your mind. If you read the whirlpool forums in the Oz forum there is plenty discussions on 2.5 petrol vs 2.2. Seems a 50/50 split in preference so it's a very personnel choice. If you speak German there is a wealth of info on the German forum too.

Good luck!

PS, amazing pics, I had a Unibog with a friend in Scotland when I was younger, spent many hours trying to see if we could get it stuck!
 
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Very cool! What type of engine/transmission/transfer case does it have?

The engine is the Volvo B18 (Same as in the Amazons), not much power but we really steady and reliable engine. RWD (nightmare in snow) and 4x4, low and high.

I'm not having the original tires, but they are BF Goodrich Mudterrain, 35x12.5". Mounted a Superwinch Talon 12500lbs winch in front.

It also comes as a soft top edition (This is actual the more common version):
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Some video from when we meet with the other Valp (Translates into puppy) and the bigger C303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-hwN3FOz7A
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I have driven all versions, owned the 150ps diesel for 3 years and now own the 175ps diesel for 6 months. I have test driven the 2.0 manual and the 2.5 Auto. The 2.0 was fun, needed revs to get any performance but that didn't matter so much, was still fun for an SUV. The 2.5 was not good imo, I know this can piss of our friends from across the water but the auto box killed the fun factor for me. Any need for acceleration saw the box kicking down one or two gears. Now if you are used to this, it is maybe totally acceptable, if you are not (like me) then it is very off putting. If the 2.5 came in a manual, this would be a different story altogether, I think that would be a really good car. It has the speed once the revs built, no doubt about it. I would have went for this if it had a manual box I think.

One the diesel, please don't think you are getting much more performance with the 175ps. I really struggle to feel any difference. To be completly honest, the 150ps felt quicker! Why, well, the gearing in the 175ps is much longer, so if you are sitting at 50 km/h in 4th gear and put your foot down, the 150ps pulled away quicker, because the revs were slightly higher and meant that the turbo lag was less. Granted once both cars get into mid revs the 175ps is probably the quicker car, but for me I much preferred the gearing of the 150ps.

The only reason I would by the 175ps would be if that had the additional spec that you needed, like 19" alloys, leather etc. That's why I bought it. As for fun, the torque is addictive, it can certainly add a fun factor. It is also a quiet engine and revs freely. Beware though that some new 175ps models have a high pitched noise from the engine once it is warm, meaning after 20 mins drive (some time after the blue temp light goes out) so if you get a chance, have a good 30 minute test drive.

Test drive as many as you can, fun factor is different for everybody. My CX5 is the wifes car, my daily car is a Mazda 2 1.3l manual, about 83ps (the slow version), I rev it and beat most things on the road (not hard in Switzerland with the steady drivers here), it's fun in it's own, like a go kart really.

I haven't read the whole thread so appologies if you have made up your mind. If you read the whirlpool forums in the Oz forum there is plenty discussions on 2.5 petrol vs 2.2. Seems a 50/50 split in preference so it's a very personnel choice. If you speak German there is a wealth of info on the German forum too.

Good luck!

PS, amazing pics, I had a Unibog with a friend in Scotland when I was younger, spent many hours trying to see if we could get it stuck!

Few hours too late :-) I just ordered the 2.5L today - Automatic was a must for me (first car with automatic). I only had to drive the 2.5L for half hour, but I believed it was good fun. Anyway - I don't think my everyday driving pattern would justify getting the Diesel, many short trips.
 
The man just spent 50% of the total cost of a nice 16-1800sq foot brick home...on a compact base-brand SUV. I'm in tears.
 
The man just spent 50% of the total cost of a nice 16-1800sq foot brick home...on a compact base-brand SUV. I'm in tears.
For $82,000, it's not even enough for a 10% down payment in the Bay area, California! A 50-year-old 1,600-1,800 sq-ft single-family home without brick in Palo Alto now costs at least $2,000,000!
 
For $82,000, it's not even enough for a 10% down payment in the Bay area, California! A 50-year-old 1,600-1,800 sq-ft single-family home without brick in Palo Alto now costs at least $2,000,000!

My friends just bought (2-3 years ago) a very nice 1500sq ft house on a 1/3 acre lot in a great neighborhood for $140K. Houses there now go for $190K, with similar floor plans, including the lot. Also, yes, I know people who live in Palo Alto, and they all rent. $6M USD is a typical decent house in Palo. Screw Kali, though.
 
The man just spent 50% of the total cost of a nice 16-1800sq foot brick home...on a compact base-brand SUV. I'm in tears.

Hey, it's only money and he obviously can afford it. Life is life, money is just a tool for life.
 
My friends just bought (2-3 years ago) a very nice 1500sq ft house on a 1/3 acre lot in a great neighborhood for $140K. Houses there now go for $190K, with similar floor plans, including the lot.

House prices are all about supply and demand. If it's only worth $190,000, that's because that's all someone is willing to pay. If everyone wanted to live there the price would get bid up until bidders weren't fighting to buy it. Then that would be the true value. People generally are not forced to buy (or rent) a house so they go for whatever they are worth to potential buyers. Decent houses in the Bay Area are worth a lot because it's a highly desirable place to live and the economy is booming.
 
Hey, it's only money and he obviously can afford it. Life is life, money is just a tool for life.

I understand that, and I can afford to train with $1/round ammo if I want, but...why? I'm just frustrated for OP that he's paying BMW money for a Mazda, in my book.
 
House prices are all about supply and demand. If it's only worth $190,000, that's because that's all someone is willing to pay. If everyone wanted to live there the price would get bid up until bidders weren't fighting to buy it. Then that would be the true value. People generally are not forced to buy (or rent) a house so they go for whatever they are worth to potential buyers. Decent houses in the Bay Area are worth a lot because it's a highly desirable place to live and the economy is booming.
Economically, I'd say my area is doing better. It doesn't produce the GDP of the bay area, but there is less crime, lower unemployment rates, and a higher growth rate than the Bay area (Over 200% higher over the last decade). I think actual dollar-amount GDP is the only economic area in which the Bay Area is technically stronger, and it has 7+ million people vs. the 1/2 million in my area.
 
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