mountjonas
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my dad can beat up your dad.
See, and this is the type of thinking that I think is completely stupid. I am not biased to ANY car manufacturer. Ford makes a BADASS drag car(SVT Cobra). Honda makes a HIGH reving track monster(S2000 & NSX). Mazda tried with the RX8, but maybe the two seater version will be better(it probably will). Chevy makes the Z06. I can go on and on, if you are a true auto enthusiast, you wouldn't be so closed minded and shut out other manufacturers. That's just dumb.Id still rather pull into my driveway driving something with a mazda symbol rather than a honda symbol....
big_ben said:See, and this is the type of thinking that I think is completely stupid. I am not biased to ANY car manufacturer. Ford makes a BADASS drag car(SVT Cobra). Honda makes a HIGH reving track monster(S2000 & NSX). Mazda tried with the RX8, but maybe the two seater version will be better(it probably will). Chevy makes the Z06. I can go on and on, if you are a true auto enthusiast, you wouldn't be so closed minded and shut out other manufacturers. That's just dumb.
EXA4DRIVER said:once again, I must agree with big ben![]()
LinuxRacr said:You too!Close-mindedness is like putting blinders on a horse.
EXA4DRIVER said:linux- how am i beeing close minded? i've test drove the rx-8 and was not impressed at all. test drive the 350z, s2000, and rx-8 and you too will see![]()
mountjonas said:my dad can beat up your dad.
servoeyes said:Lemme kick in my $.00 (get it...nonsence??)
Ok...that was bad...but, why, if the Rx-8 is so damn slow, when C&D drove it it was fine, and when they put it up against the G35 and the SVT cobra in a face-off it won? Here's the quote with their numbers:
...the RX-8 scooted to 60 mph in 5.9 seconds and through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 96 mph. But that performance falls off considerably without a tire-frying launch. In our street-start test from 5 to 60 mph, the RX-8 needed 7.5 seconds1.6 seconds.
Their big complaint was the lack of midrange "grunt". Now here the thingis...the gearing is short, so what gear are these dynos done in, and who's doing them? Check out Motor Trends' first test results, too.
I also went to see what SCC thought...well I think this is it:
At low rpm, the RX-8 is gutless, but responsive, much like an S2000. But as the revs climb and the number of intake ports goes from two, to four, to six, the engine wakes up. At 6250 rpm, when the high-rpm power ports kick in...well, we're not really sure. You see, our test car, and every RX-8 at this point, is an early, hand-built prototype, and apparently, after a bit of hard use, the power port valves on these prototypes are starting to stick shut.
Mechanically, it's a minor issue, and should be easily resolved, but the effect is huge, almost exactly like driving an S2000 with the VTEC disabled. With the power port valves stuck shut, the engine becomes effectively the same as the 210-hp engine available in base models in Europe and Japan, and in the sissy, four-speed automatic in the United States. We discovered the problem on our dyno, when the RX-8's power went flat at exactly 6250 rpm.
210-hp crank, *15% loss=31.5 hp, therefore 178.5 whp give or take...Sound about right? So the questions are, were these production models or not and what gear are the tests in?
LinuxRacr said:Smolten,
Your posts are not constructive at all. As a moderator in THIS forum, I urge you to clean it up. The facts are out there. Let them speak for themselves, and don't be and ASS!
servoeyes said:Lemme kick in my $.00 (get it...nonsence??)
Ok...that was bad...but, why, if the Rx-8 is so damn slow, when C&D drove it it was fine, and when they put it up against the G35 and the SVT cobra in a face-off it won? Here's the quote with their numbers:
...the RX-8 scooted to 60 mph in 5.9 seconds and through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 96 mph. But that performance falls off considerably without a tire-frying launch. In our street-start test from 5 to 60 mph, the RX-8 needed 7.5 seconds1.6 seconds.
Their big complaint was the lack of midrange "grunt". Now here the thingis...the gearing is short, so what gear are these dynos done in, and who's doing them? Check out Motor Trends' first test results, too.
I also went to see what SCC thought...well I think this is it:
At low rpm, the RX-8 is gutless, but responsive, much like an S2000. But as the revs climb and the number of intake ports goes from two, to four, to six, the engine wakes up. At 6250 rpm, when the high-rpm power ports kick in...well, we're not really sure. You see, our test car, and every RX-8 at this point, is an early, hand-built prototype, and apparently, after a bit of hard use, the power port valves on these prototypes are starting to stick shut.
Mechanically, it's a minor issue, and should be easily resolved, but the effect is huge, almost exactly like driving an S2000 with the VTEC disabled. With the power port valves stuck shut, the engine becomes effectively the same as the 210-hp engine available in base models in Europe and Japan, and in the sissy, four-speed automatic in the United States. We discovered the problem on our dyno, when the RX-8's power went flat at exactly 6250 rpm.
210-hp crank, *15% loss=31.5 hp, therefore 178.5 whp give or take...Sound about right? So the questions are, were these production models or not and what gear are the tests in?