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[acidbug]

Yet.

Personally, I would never recomend nitrous to anyone unless they have some way of retarding timing when spraying. But it's your car, you decide. Without some timing retard, I wouldn't go over the smallest, 35 shot I think. My opinion though.

Well your wrong..There are many of us that are using [bold]wet[/bold] kits..and have had no problems...you are right about the timing..but only if you go upto 75 or larger...a 35shot..or a 50 like i am running will have no ill effect...only the MP3's have advanced timing!!

Chas

 

[RevsTo9K]

So you are telling me that nitrous has no ill effects on motors? If that's what you are telling me, then you don't know s*** about engines. Nitrous always does some damage to a motor. Unless you had it installed by a orofessional tuner that has had years of experience with it. If you are so sure you know what you are talking about, let me as you this. You are supposedly using a "wet" shot. Did you know that the ECU will pull as much fuel as you add. So really, you aren't using a wet shot. I'll bet you didn't even know that about the Protege ECU. So basically all that fuel that is being added for the nitrous is being sensed by the O2 sensors and being pulled back out by the ECU. If you don't believe me just ask Kieth from FM.

Also, I didn't know someone "opinion" could be wrong. You are such a dumb s***.

 

[perfworks]

revs
listen no need to be hostile
i understand your point and every one else to
sometimes things come off the wrong way to others

BUT in regards to your nitrous theory i have to differ a little.
now maybe IM wrong but from what i understand about nitrous bieng injected in the N/A motor, it actually increases charge density for both fuel and air
the stock o2 will not send (neccisarily) a rich condition to the ecu
yes it has the ability to pull 30 % fuel from the injectors. but only if it sees the increase and not the load thru the MAF and TPS
now i stated earlier that i am forded induction all the way but for the people who have a family to supprt and a budget that cant handle the extra 5000 ( which the number is pretty acurate )
the a nice intake, LONG tube 4-2-1 header and cat back exhaust will make them happy
if thats what they want then let them have it
the post was just asking for some opinions and now they have all of ours. good or bad im sure they will make the decision that siuts there needs

later,
by the way revs do you race in jersey at all?
just asking
id like to your set up in the car

 

[acidbug]

So you are telling me that nitrous has no ill effects on motors? If that's what you are telling me, then you don't know s*** about engines. Nitrous always does some damage to a motor. Unless you had it installed by a orofessional tuner that has had years of experience with it. If you are so sure you know what you are talking about, let me as you this. You are supposedly using a "wet" shot. Did you know that the ECU will pull as much fuel as you add. So really, you aren't using a wet shot. I'll bet you didn't even know that about the Protege ECU. So basically all that fuel that is being added for the nitrous is being sensed by the O2 sensors and being pulled back out by the ECU. If you don't believe me just ask Kieth from FM.

Also, I didn't know someone "opinion" could be wrong. You are such a dumb s***.

Hey ***! You heard me the F8cking first time..It doesn't...And Yes...I had it proffesionally..installed...They guy has Nitrous on his Race CAr...and not to mention...been drag racing for many..years...Have you ever run Nitrous...I didn't think so..it's alwayz the non users that think they know everything...just because you drive a H2000...A small shot will not harm..the car..just like a little boost will not harm the car...it's when you start adding lots of nitrous or boost..when the cars internals have problems...OK
DUMB F*CK!

Why the hell are you even on this board...Honduh's are not Mazda's so don't compare their Crappy engines to our superior cars!!

And about the ECU PULLIng BACK fuel...What the **** do you think a fuel pressure safety switch does...Ass hole...Dont' Act like you know all...b/c i have researched this before! There is a solenoid for Fuel!! So it can't pull Back..You are talking about a Dry Shot...Damn...some people think they know all...You know FI..like turbo's but you don't know s*** about Nitrous ...Lamer!!!

& your opinoin means Nothing to me...s***...Grow Up..and stop being so lame!

 

[perfworks]

yo acid come to english town on may 3rd!
it would be nice to see a pro 5 with nitrous!
sorry never seen one
im in jersey pm me

 

[RevsTo9K]

I don't even have to reply negatively to you for other people to realize how dumb you are. All they have to do is read what you wrote and how much bad grammar is there to see that. That's all I have to say to you.

"lamer"(rofl) what the hell is that?

 

[1FASTMP5]

REVTO9K- LISTEN GRAMMER ***! NOT EVERYONE CAN TAKE THE TIME TO PROF READ. EVEN YOU ******-UP ON SPELLING GET OVER IT!!!!! AND GET THE **** ON BICTH!!! GO BACK TO YOUR HONDA BOARDS. LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE LIKES TO HATE ON ANYONE WHO DOESNT HAVE A HONDA!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL

I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.

 

[acidbug]

REVTO9K- LISTEN GRAMMER ***! NOT EVERYONE CAN TAKE THE TIME TO PROF READ. EVEN YOU ******-UP ON SPELLING GET OVER IT!!!!! AND GET THE **** ON BICTH!!! GO BACK TO YOUR HONDA BOARDS. LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE LIKES TO HATE ON ANYONE WHO DOESNT HAVE A HONDA!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL

I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.

Thanks for backing me up 1fastmp5(drinks)

I am at work...So proof reading is something i don't have time for!
I truthfully shouldn't even be on the board while at work...but hey..

"lamer" what the hell is that?

psst...that's you!

Chas

Honduh(piss) Zoom Zoom!

 

[1FASTMP5]

same here no time to prof read things.
he's just a hater!!!!!
some people work

 

[RevsTo9K]

LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE LIKES TO HATE ON ANYONE WHO DOESNT HAVE A HONDA!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL

God, you guys really are pathetic. If you read any of my previous post on this board, you might see that I am not "hating" on the Protege. But you two are too stupid to see this I guess. You two remind me of whiny little teenage girls. I feel sorry for the two of you since you can't see past the hood of your own car to realize that there are other cars on the road that you can learn from. It's idiots like the two of you that make everyone else look stupid. Stupidity is running rampant today isn't it. Let me know if I need to define the word rampant for you.

I also love the way the two of you use ebonics regularly. It's really shows your intelligence. You "haters".(rofl)

 

[perfworks]

well revs not to be the bearer of bad news
but i guess you dont send that positive energy vibe thats needed
just relax and back to civilized conversation
O.K.?
now are you from any where near jersey?
i would like to see your car in action and what kind of car do you have?
P.S. i didnt do good in english class when i was younger so be gentle!

 

[acidbug]

God, you guys really are pathetic. If you read any of my previous post on this board, you might see that I am not "hating" on the Protege. But you two are too stupid to see this I guess. You two remind me of whiny little teenage girls. I feel sorry for the two of you since you can't see past the hood of your own car to realize that there are other cars on the road that you can learn from. It's idiots like the two of you that make everyone else look stupid. Stupidity is running rampant today isn't it. Let me know if I need to define the word rampant for you.

I also love the way the two of you use ebonics regularly. It's really shows your intelligence. You "haters".

Dude..You are Such a Panzie...I have proved you wrong on Multiple occasions..yet you just want to bash people who know more than you!!

You are the one who's pathetic...you drive a HONDA & you hang out in a MAZDA BoARD!

Ha Ha Ha...Loser..What' wrong...Honda Board kicked you out so you come to the mazda Boards!

Or are you just realizing..that as soon as the RX8 comes out..you will be getting your ass handed to you!
Lamer....(upyours)

Go push your Opinoins..on some of your Hunduh buddys...

Chas

 

[RevsTo9K]

No, I'm from Texas. I don't street race either. The only racing I do is on a track. The S2000 wasn't meant to drag race anyway. This car was built for track racing. The only reason I don't send a "nice vibe" is because I refuse to sugar coat anything. I'm not going to be nice to these two idiots. They know very little about cars and it shows. They are promoting the use of nitrous, even though more motors have been blown in Proteges from nitrous than turbos. Trust me, I know Proteges, I used to have one. I know a lot about the FS motor, and nitrous is a bad idea. Especially anything over a 50shot. And nitrous on the MP3 is just stupid. I mean no hard feelings, but I'm not going to take insults from guys with 6th grade intelligence. I never said Honda is better than Mazda. I know the F20c is a much better than the FS-DE, that's not even comparable. Mazda built piston motors are fine, it's just the heads that suck. That's where Honda gets all it's power from, good head design. Mazda is know for their rotary. But I will say that the 1.8 Miata motor is VERY durable and handles boost like a champ. The biggest problem with the Protege is the ECU and it's lack of controlability. Mazda doesn't want anyone to be able to hack into it. And this kills aftermarket support.

 

[RevsTo9K]

I have proved you wrong on Multiple occasions

What? Please tell me where you proved me wrong. I have reduced you to making childish remarks about me that really don't even make sense. You will probably be calling my mother fat in a minute. Let's keep this going though. You are showing everyone your maturity and intelligence, and I can obviously push your buttons very easily like you are my puppet.

 

[acidbug]

Also...THe guys who blew their engines...Were ALL RUNNING DRY SHOTS!!

Paito has been running upto a 75shot
& I have been running 50shots..for sometime now.

You are right about the Mp3's...but those guys...were running Dry Kits...(zex to be exact)!

 

[RevsTo9K]

I'll say the same thing I did last time. You haven't had any problems YET. About 80% of the people that use nitrous, wet or dry, couse damage to their motors. Is that a personal attack to you? No, I'm just telling you the truth. I wish you luck with your nitrous, you will need it. As we speak, your pistons are wearing thin on the crown. Before too long, one will give, and you will think back to this conversation that you got all defensive about.

You were the first one that got all pissy like a girl. Don't believe me? Go back and read your posts and then mine. I just stated that I wouldn't recommend Nitrous to anyone. Then you thought that I call your name and starting attacking you. Are you hearing voices? Because I never said anything about you. They have medication for those voices you know.

 

[acidbug]

This is what i said

Well your wrong..There are many of us that are using [bold]wet[/bold] kits..and have had no problems...you are right about the timing..but only if you go upto 75 or larger...a 35shot..or a 50 like i am running will have no ill effect...only the MP3's have advanced timing!!

Chas

what you said!

So you are telling me that nitrous has no ill effects on motors? If that's what you are telling me, then you don't know s*** about engines. Nitrous always does some damage to a motor. Unless you had it installed by a orofessional tuner that has had years of experience with it. If you are so sure you know what you are talking about, let me as you this. You are supposedly using a "wet" shot. Did you know that the ECU will pull as much fuel as you add. So really, you aren't using a wet shot. I'll bet you didn't even know that about the Protege ECU. So basically all that fuel that is being added for the nitrous is being sensed by the O2 sensors and being pulled back out by the ECU. If you don't believe me just ask Kieth from FM.

Also, I didn't know someone "opinion" could be wrong. You are such a dumb s***.

I have just proven you wrong again...dumb s***!

 

[perfworks]

the controlability issue with the ecu (actually PCM) comes from ford
they hold the rights to any programing and want to be paid for
i dont blame them because they own it
now because of emmision regs they DONT want anyone to foo with it
thats what is killing the aftermarket availability not mazda
now i have a question for you revs,
what is the difference in load content between turbo charging and getting 50 -75 hp on the stock internals and nitrous with the stock internals at the same hp shot
maybe im ignorant so i would like to know the difference

 

[RevsTo9K]

Me. Just stating my OPINION.

Without some timing retard, I wouldn't go over the smallest, 35 shot I think. My opinion though.

You

Well your wrong..

Wow, you are so smart that you can tell someone when their OPINIONS are wrong. I've never met anyone who could do that.

So, please, you are on a roll, prove me wrong again. "Dumb s***"

 

[perfworks]

hey how about my question!!