you know, thats funny because about 3 months ago i siad i was gonna rotorize and rear drive my P5 when its paid 4 but then my engine effed up and is now being built to 200+hp at the wheels N/A, but still if i have time and the money now keeps rollin in you better bet your ass that ill be the first rotory powered rear drive P5. oh yeah, i financed my car for 5 years so itll be a while if it ever even comes close to being. but really i dont think you have to be on this forum to find out when or if it gets done because thats some CRAZEE s***. food for thought.
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Rally X Monster P5t
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anarchistchiken
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Really? 200 NA whp. That interesting considering that some guys on this forum (twilightprotege (I think?) and spicy mchaggis) have been trying to get there for a while and they both have a ways to go.
I don't think that the rotary is a good idea. It will be far too complicated and isn't worth the trouble. A built FS-DE w/ turbo would be the way to go.
AWD would be sweet, but I've heard bad things about the SP20 AWD, so I like the idea of using one from a Tribute or something like that.
I think putting the V6 in is also a bad idea, because it will make the car too front heavy, especially if you plan on gutting the rear.
Those things aside, this is an easily achievable project. If you have the money, there is no reason you can't build a 300whp AWD P5.
Good luck!
AWD would be sweet, but I've heard bad things about the SP20 AWD, so I like the idea of using one from a Tribute or something like that.
I think putting the V6 in is also a bad idea, because it will make the car too front heavy, especially if you plan on gutting the rear.
Those things aside, this is an easily achievable project. If you have the money, there is no reason you can't build a 300whp AWD P5.
Good luck!
I encourage any ideas that are out of the ordinary, no matter sane or insane! Ideas are generated by frontiers, not followers. I understand that money should be considered in the production, but hey, look at NASA! They must have spent trillions of dollars on dreams but in the process, they've answered tons of questions for mankind, and these discoveries are priceless!
AMEN bROTHA!
U SEE...
I just know this, I have an automatic and it is a weak point of the drivetrain that has to be addressed long term.
That is if I find myself wanting to do more autoX then just road races.
Right now, just puttin basic bolt-ons til I can afford a turbo kit.
Alpinejwl said:I encourage any ideas that are out of the ordinary, no matter sane or insane! Ideas are generated by frontiers, not followers. I understand that money should be considered in the production, but hey, look at NASA! They must have spent trillions of dollars on dreams but in the process, they've answered tons of questions for mankind, and these discoveries are priceless!
U SEE...
I just know this, I have an automatic and it is a weak point of the drivetrain that has to be addressed long term.
That is if I find myself wanting to do more autoX then just road races.
Right now, just puttin basic bolt-ons til I can afford a turbo kit.
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Crazee D said:U SEE...
I just know this, I have an automatic and it is a weak point of the drivetrain that has to be addressed long term.
That is if I find myself wanting to do more autoX then just road races.
Right now, just puttin basic bolt-ons til I can afford a turbo kit.
If you are SERIOUSLY going turbo, most "basic bolt-ons" are a waste of money, as they will either have to be taken off the car,or will be counter productive with a turbo application...the only real bolt on out there that you can keep with a turbo is exhaust, and even then 3" is the way to go for turbo, but you will lose power with 3" on an NA...
bottom line, if you are going turbo, save your money for the turbo, and stay stock for now..plus that will keep you in stock class if you auto-x, and a P% is pretty competitive in stock form
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eljefe305 said:actually... 12k P5 + 5k turbo (including extensive tuning) + 3-4k awd... it's still cheaper than a WRX.
obviously much cooler too
acutally this is wrong, that would put you at 20-21 k and you can get them for 18ish easily
Why are we even discussing this if you can't afford a turbo kit? This is a pipe dream.
I think the automatic transmission is probably the first thing you should address...or like everyone else has said, buy a different car.
Wanna hear about my idea for a 600HP Ford Festiva F1 racer?
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didn't think so
I think the automatic transmission is probably the first thing you should address...or like everyone else has said, buy a different car.
Wanna hear about my idea for a 600HP Ford Festiva F1 racer?
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didn't think so
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chuyler1 said:Why are we even discussing this if you can't afford a turbo kit? This is a pipe dream.
I think the automatic transmission is probably the first thing you should address...or like everyone else has said, buy a different car.
Wanna hear about my idea for a 600HP Ford Festiva F1 racer?
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didn't think so
well put
chuyler1 said:Why are we even discussing this if you can't afford a turbo kit? This is a pipe dream.
I think the automatic transmission is probably the first thing you should address...or like everyone else has said, buy a different car.
Wanna hear about my idea for a 600HP Ford Festiva F1 racer?
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didn't think so
Wait, what's wrong with discussing pipe dreams? Most cars aren't build from stock to dream car right away, most of us have to start with the simple things and save up for the big ones.
If this guy wants to do bolt ons while he saves up for a turbo, NO PROBLEM cause when he does get the turbo, he'll probably sell his NA parts. CrazeeD, when you get your turbo, let me know and we'll talk about your header.
Some of us start with dreams, but settle for reality. This thread started as a rally dream, but might end with an auto-X reality.
as for the ford Festiva, I don't know about 600hp, but this is a good place to start ford festiva
(rofl)
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SlowPro98 said:Wait, what's wrong with discussing pipe dreams? Most cars aren't build from stock to dream car right away, most of us have to start with the simple things and save up for the big ones.
If this guy wants to do bolt ons while he saves up for a turbo, NO PROBLEM cause when he does get the turbo, he'll probably sell his NA parts. CrazeeD, when you get your turbo, let me know and we'll talk about your header.
Some of us start with dreams, but settle for reality. This thread started as a rally dream, but might end with an auto-X reality.
as for the ford Festiva, I don't know about 600hp, but this is a good place to start ford festiva
(rofl)
It's a lot easier to save for a turbo, if you don't waste $200-300 on a header you wont use, $400 on an exhaust you won't use, $300 on cam's that won't work well with a turbo, $250 on an intake you won't use, and them sell them for less than half you paid later
it's just common sense (hand)
TampaSport20 said:It's a lot easier to save for a turbo, if you don't waste $200-300 on a header you wont use, $400 on an exhaust you won't use, $300 on cam's that won't work well with a turbo, $250 on an intake you won't use, and them sell them for less than half you paid later
it's just common sense (hand)
Dude! I want to buy his old stuff when he gets the turbo. quit saltin' my hussle. (burp)
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TampaSport20 said:It's a lot easier to save for a turbo, if you don't waste $200-300 on a header you wont use Can use with WOMP, $400 on an exhaust you won't use WOMP friendly, $300 on cam's that won't work well with a turbo go WOMP
Superchargers are teh win.
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I agree with the person who said just save up and stay stock for now. Why waste time spending money on stuff you dont really need? If you do end up buying that stuff I can almost guarantee that you wont make back what you paid, and will end up losing money on it setting you back even further. Point is if a turbo is what you want, then just get a turbo.
what would we be doing if all we did is what the other guy said. that doesnt make much sense. and if you want to stay in a sensible range, dont mod and race your car bacause it will decrease the lifespan of your engine. **** it, if the dude wants to mod his ride prior to boost and throw all his money away in bolt ons let him, that idea is sensible to him. Besides, everyone has that one-off idea in their head somewhere. LIke my rotory powered P5. That might not ever happen and might result in the purchase of an RX7 which in reality would be the sensible thing. Funny thing though when you actually see that P5 or Festiva or whatever, everyone will trip over that s*** and wanna know who and how..
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(deadhorse for those who said it couldn't be done, I just learned about the JDM sport20/s-wagon version of the p5.
http://english.auto.vl.ru/auctions/mazda/familia/1186528/
http://www.artex.co.jp/Pages/CarLife/FamiliaS-Wagon/Magazine/av_02_05_00.htm
http://www.artex.co.jp/Pages/CarLife/FamiliaS-Wagon/Magazine/STYLEWAGON_01_6_00.htm anyone know how to read japanese?
So Crazee D, you have to take a trip to japan, find a S-wagon or sport20 (whichever is the one with the awd) and ship it back stateside.
http://english.auto.vl.ru/auctions/mazda/familia/1186528/
http://www.artex.co.jp/Pages/CarLife/FamiliaS-Wagon/Magazine/av_02_05_00.htm
http://www.artex.co.jp/Pages/CarLife/FamiliaS-Wagon/Magazine/STYLEWAGON_01_6_00.htm anyone know how to read japanese?
So Crazee D, you have to take a trip to japan, find a S-wagon or sport20 (whichever is the one with the awd) and ship it back stateside.
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