Protege Alarm / Starter / Turbo Timer Wire Colors
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not to take away from 1st's post here, but i have an Alarm FAQ that should answer all your questions...and if not, well, just ask 
(the link is also in my sig)
Vehicle Security FAQ
I also have easy to D/L and print PDF versions of the wire color codes for all gens of the Protege. They are in the How-To section
www.mazdaracer.com
(the link is also in my sig)
Vehicle Security FAQ
I also have easy to D/L and print PDF versions of the wire color codes for all gens of the Protege. They are in the How-To section
www.mazdaracer.com
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hey i got a question i just installed a greddy turbo timer and it haa some speed signal wire that goes to the computer. it is not needed for the timer to work but for calculatin 0-100 times and stuff. anyone know the location and color of the speed signal wire if not i will leave like it is. but i would like ot be able to play and get an idea of some times
Sunroof wiring.
So I thought I'd toss a bit of a contribution into this one, especially pertainant since There's now a how-to for retained sunroof power. I'm sure I'm not the firs tto do this, but I couldn't find it listed elsewhere;
Location: in headliner behind maplight/sunroof control between visors (just pull the whole unit down)
Slide open: blue
Slide close: blue/white
Tilt open: blue/yellow
Tilt close: blue/grn
There is also one solid black wire that's a ground source (you can see it attaches to the rocker switches)
All wires are red-spotted.
I'm not sure of the "type" if there is any, but they are of the variety that completes the circut when grounded. I believe this is the same as the windows, so I guess it would be "A"
Test by jumpering each wire to a ground.
I've only got 2 extra channels open on my alarm, so I'll be doing slide open, and then running both of the closeswitches simultaneously. Fortunately there's extra room up in the "bubble" in the headliner in the general area for a couple of relays, so I'm assuming I'll just run my trigger from my brain up the pillar and do my connections right up there. Remember if doing this, there's a prerequisite of making the retained power mod. Fortunately ZapWizard wrote this up nicely http://protege5.com/vbb225/showthread.php?t=55532
So I thought I'd toss a bit of a contribution into this one, especially pertainant since There's now a how-to for retained sunroof power. I'm sure I'm not the firs tto do this, but I couldn't find it listed elsewhere;
Location: in headliner behind maplight/sunroof control between visors (just pull the whole unit down)
Slide open: blue
Slide close: blue/white
Tilt open: blue/yellow
Tilt close: blue/grn
There is also one solid black wire that's a ground source (you can see it attaches to the rocker switches)
All wires are red-spotted.
I'm not sure of the "type" if there is any, but they are of the variety that completes the circut when grounded. I believe this is the same as the windows, so I guess it would be "A"
Test by jumpering each wire to a ground.
I've only got 2 extra channels open on my alarm, so I'll be doing slide open, and then running both of the closeswitches simultaneously. Fortunately there's extra room up in the "bubble" in the headliner in the general area for a couple of relays, so I'm assuming I'll just run my trigger from my brain up the pillar and do my connections right up there. Remember if doing this, there's a prerequisite of making the retained power mod. Fortunately ZapWizard wrote this up nicely http://protege5.com/vbb225/showthread.php?t=55532
bruce95fmla
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Cant you use a single relay and jump the clutch switch from the activation wire from the alarm. I know I was reading the instructions in my Mannix alarm and it was saying that.
You would use a single relay, there is a wire that sends a signal to the relay which will jump the two wires on the clutch plug, that lets the ecu know the clutch is depressed.
This is ofcourse on an alarm that has remote start that is meant for a 5speed.
I have an alarm on the protege, but I just used a jumper wire for the clutch plug. The alarm is really meant for a automatic.
Plus the Mannix comes with a built in turbo timer guys.
www.mannixusa.com.
You would use a single relay, there is a wire that sends a signal to the relay which will jump the two wires on the clutch plug, that lets the ecu know the clutch is depressed.
This is ofcourse on an alarm that has remote start that is meant for a 5speed.
I have an alarm on the protege, but I just used a jumper wire for the clutch plug. The alarm is really meant for a automatic.
Plus the Mannix comes with a built in turbo timer guys.
www.mannixusa.com.
I am finaly installing a remote starter on a Protege and I even still have some questions.
Do we need tp power the second ignition wire?
Has anyone tried to use just the nuetral saftey wire with no relays invovled on a standard?
From what a friend just told me, the newer DEi products won't do anything if the nuetral saftey wire is not gounded. They will not power accessory circuits or ingintion circuits. I will be trying it out thursday
Do we need tp power the second ignition wire?
Has anyone tried to use just the nuetral saftey wire with no relays invovled on a standard?
From what a friend just told me, the newer DEi products won't do anything if the nuetral saftey wire is not gounded. They will not power accessory circuits or ingintion circuits. I will be trying it out thursday
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I can now answer my own questions.1sty said:I am finaly installing a remote starter on a Protege and I even still have some questions.
Do we need tp power the second ignition wire?
Has anyone tried to use just the nuetral saftey wire with no relays invovled on a standard?
From what a friend just told me, the newer DEi products won't do anything if the nuetral saftey wire is not gounded. They will not power accessory circuits or ingintion circuits. I will be trying it out thursday
Yes, power the second ignition wire of the car with the second ignition wire of the remote starter.
If the neutral safety wire is not showing (-) to a DEi unit, in other words if the car is not in neutral, the remote starter won't do anything. It will not power any circuits other then parking lights. Once the brains knows that the car is not in gear it will turn off the parking lights and will not try to start again.
You can connect the neutral saftey wire directly to a DEi brain of any of there remote staters you do not need a special manual only modual or remote start. On a protege atleast.
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what DEI alarm did you instal 1sty? i was looking to get either the viper 791xv or the valet 554r both with remote start. i called up dei and they told me that they will give me no support or warranty claims if i put it on a manual car so i wanna know if this works for sure and that no glitches will occur. i know i usually won't have to deal with a runaway car since i pretty much always park in neutral but you never know. . . i know its been asked a million times but i guess remote start on a manual will always be a touchy subject.
yea went to circuit city and asked them how much it would be to install it for me, because i suck at electrial stuff. they told me they cant even touch it, something that was with the law or something. i dont remember what they said, but he said he cant install it in a manual car.... it really made me mad. lol o well, and i would also like to know what kit u used to 1sty
I installed a Viper 160XV.
THere is no law that says a remote starter can not be installed in a manual car. Most all salesmen will say there is though, just to get people to stop asking. The truth is that installing on a standard is a HUGE liability issue. So to aviod any possible lawsuits or insurance claims, shops simply won't do it. Small shops are more likely to do it for you.
THere is no law that says a remote starter can not be installed in a manual car. Most all salesmen will say there is though, just to get people to stop asking. The truth is that installing on a standard is a HUGE liability issue. So to aviod any possible lawsuits or insurance claims, shops simply won't do it. Small shops are more likely to do it for you.
traitorhound said:
Yes they will work. They will only need the precations that I used. When connected to the alarms nuetral safety wire, the cars nuetral wire will not let the car start if in gear. Its not going to happen. If you want to be extra sure, you can run the parking break wire though a relay that will then connect the nuetral wires. This was the car will also not start if the ebrake ins't pulled.
Again, becuase of liability reasons, DEI doesn;t want people putting these on manual cars. No DEI remote starter is made for a manual car. Compustar and a few other brands have remote startes intended to be installed on manuals.
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anyone figure out the whole TT & alarm shut off issue. Is there a way to get around it yet?
Well since you only need to get signal from it, and I would use it to trip relays, Try looking in the same harness that parking lights wire is found in.
http://www.msprotege.com/members/1sty/remote%20starter/Parking%20Light%20wire.JPG
Just ground the negative lead of a multimeter and then probe the harness turning on and off the blinker until you find a wire that is only +12 volts when the blinker flashes. If that doesn't work, ground the negative lead and look for continuity in the harness when the blinker is going.
http://www.msprotege.com/members/1sty/remote%20starter/Parking%20Light%20wire.JPG
Just ground the negative lead of a multimeter and then probe the harness turning on and off the blinker until you find a wire that is only +12 volts when the blinker flashes. If that doesn't work, ground the negative lead and look for continuity in the harness when the blinker is going.
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(protest) (shrug)
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