problem with MPI

[Kooldino]

Well, all I can say is that the ones that I have done and the ones That Big Timm have done all come out ok.

Then obviously you guys do better work than him. I've seen some of Nick's shoddy work first hand. Some of his work is good, some of his work is downright laughable.

Don't forget we only hear of the problem tunes becuase people have no need to post when everything is going ok.

That's not true. My customers post when things are ok. Why wouldn't Nick's?

With that said, do you think it's warranted for Dana to tell people not to go to a shop. Especially since 1. He is an admin on this site, who is supposed to remain neutral and be a sort of referee, instead of getting in to the battle, and

Referee of what? Nick is not a Vendor here.

2. Who he himself both owns and operates a shop/online business and also uses the MPI himself ?

I think that's a little hypocritical on both of his titles here...

Stop trying to make an issue out of this. What, since I'm a vendor and an admin, I can't state my opinion? Should I keep my mouth shut and let other people go to Nick and pay good money for a poor tune? I mean, I've literally driven cars before and after they were taken to him and they tend to come out poorly. I'm not here to talk smack, I'm really just stating the facts. I'm sick and tired of seeing this exact same story over and over. It really bums me out to see people lose their time and money when he's not doing good work for them.

I realize you're sticking up for your buddy Nick, but honestly, put yourself in my shoes. If you saw countless examples of cars that he's tuned over the years, and 99% of them run like crap, wouldn't you warn people who wanted to go to them? I warned people not to go to him before I was in business, when I clearly had nothing to gain. I was just trying to help out the community.

Don't be like Nick and blame any and all issues on the customer and/or the car. At times, he does very poor work. His old Vendor Reviews reflect that perfectly.

 

[Kooldino]

Nick saw this and told the cutomer he may need to have his injectors cleaned as this is not normal.

Oh, the famous "he may need to have his injectors cleaned" excuse. Typical Nick excuse.

Don't forget it's the stock ecu controlling stock injectors.

On top of that, because of this issue, Nick did not even charge this customer...

So nick did all of this work for free?

Anyway, excuse me if I sound harsh, but really, this is all too typical. I've lost count of how many times I've heard this exact story. Right down to the "your injectors may be dirty" excuse. Bottom line, I've seen more problematic cars come out of Nick's shop than I have out of any other shop, ever. If people aren't happy with his services, they should speak up and save everyone a lot of grief.

 

[Kooldino]

well look i have not been to upset with nick until now he has done nothing but help all the way and anytime i have a problem he helps me. so i'm not saying he's a bad person or his tunes aren't good i'm just so mad about my car right now i'm trying to figure if it the car or the chip and i haven't had a chance to check the injectors yet cause all my tools are at work so tom. bright and early i will check that out and see if there is a problem

If the injectors are clean (which they probably are), then go ahead and wire it back to stock for testing purposes. If it runs like it did from the factory, then it has something to do with the MPI, the wiring, or the tune of the MPI. Simple as that. Git er done and post your results.

 

[Kooldino]

this is not right

i agree that alot of people are coming back on the site to say that nick sucks and he cant tune my car blablaba that's one thing. we always hear the bad stories, nobody comes on the site to post good stories about Nick (or anybody for that matter). Once we get the full story, there's ALWAYS something else that wasnt mentionned in the initial post. I also agree that Dana's way of tuning fixes some problems and might make things easier, but he has no right to come in a thread and post s*** like don't go to nick, write a review here. being an admin just makes this more wrong.

I have every right to state my opinion. Every single one of his former customers who brings his car to me always says the same thing. "I wish someone told me not to go to Nick."

Dude, offer your services, explain to the guy why you think your way is better, tell him you can fix his car and how much money he would have to spend and leave it at that. Don't go "we have to warn people not to go to Nick" publicly. keep it professional

1985 and I have been in contact for some time, and he knows that I'm here for him if he needs my help. Trust me, if you saw the number of poorly running cars to come out of Nick's shop, you'd be as bitter about his shop as I am. I'm really just trying to save everyone a lot of heartache by not having him tune their cars. They're honestly better off doing it themselves. I know that Nick doesn't do a lot of the MPI installs himself anymore, and he has some inexperienced guys doing the wiring and making some big mistakes. Perhaps this is the cause of some of the problems. But whatever the case, it's ultimately Nick's responsibility.

Anyway, sorry for turning this into a "Nick review" thread, but I constantly get a barrage of PMs, emails, and phone calls on a constant basis due to the work that comes out of that shop. Please Jesus, make it stop.

(ughdance)

 

[Kooldino]

ok well i pulled the codes from car and i got
1. p0131 sensor circuit low volt.- this one came up twice

Is the car being tuned via O2?

2.p2006 intake main runner stuck closed

Never saw this one before...

"Intake Manifold runner control stuck closed (bank 1)"

do your VICS and VTCS flaps move?

 

[Kooldino]

ok the problems i'm having is it feels like a fuel cut but nick says the volts are to low to be a fuel cut and at 10in vac the wide-band says --- which is past 18.0:1 and than when i hit boost it cuts and the wide band says 10.0:1

What's the lowest your wideband can read?

 

[Focus]

WOW Dana, 8 POsts in a row trying to defend yourself, In the eyes of most people that would be an admission of guilt. Wether he is a paid vendor on these forums or not, does not make Modern Performance any less of a vendor.

And if you want to know the truth, he hasn't paid his dues, becuase of situations like this, where everyone used to protect MAM and bash Nick, but I guess it hasn't stopped because you are still doing it.

You keep bashing nick under the pretenses that he is no longer a vendor here, but he still has a shop and he still remains a potential customer to Mazda forums. Nice of you , representing the administration here, to treat him this way.

So please just shut up and let the people who want to help others get their car fixed post, oh but wait, you wouldn't be making any money that way...

 

[Kooldino]

You keep bashing nick under the pretenses that he is no longer a vendor here, but he still has a shop and he still remains a potential customer to Mazda forums.

That's irrelevant. He's not an AV here, so he doesn't fall under the "since he's an AV, don't bash him" rule. If my opinion is that his work is poor, I have absolutely every right to state that.

Nice of you , representing the administration here, to treat him this way.

I'm in no way making some official statements with the intent of representing the forums. I'm simply stating my opinion. Being an Admin doesn't mean that you have to withhold your opinion on things.

So please just shut up and let the people who want to help others get their car fixed post, oh but wait, you wouldn't be making any money that way...

Wow, this is very respectful of you. I'm not going to "shut up", I'll say what I please, thanks.

This also has nothing to do with me making money, as I told the guy that I'm too booked up to touch his car anytime soon. And like I said, I felt the exact same way about Nick's tuning for years before I was in business. So go ahead and put your tinfoil hat on, and keep ranting on about what a greedy bastard I am, and how I'm only doing all of this for the almighty buck.

I also like how you failed to acknowledge my above points from previous posts. I'm doing the right thing here by warning people to think twice before going to Nick. If you took your car to him and saw what he did first hand, I'm sure you'd see things differently.

 

[BBSF2]

I have helped Dana with a couple of cars that Dana had to fix that Nick worked on first, and Nicks work was below par. The fuel maps were all over the place, as well as the wiring was of the MPI was below par as well. He is not in this for the money at all, Dana simply wants people to know what goes on in this communtiy. Dana is really just trying to do everyone a favor and let them know whats up, and from what i have seen with my OWN eyes, i agree with what he is saying.
craig

 

[Witchdoktor]

I'm doing the right thing here by warning people to think twice before going to Nick. If you took your car to him and saw what he did first hand, I'm sure you'd see things differently.

So how many cars did it take for you to finally come out of the closet. I think the world of you dino but this was my only issue with you - keeping silent on the sidelines while watching forum members get shafted.
A+ move brother.

 

[Jaysanooch]

Enough with the shut up.....no you shut up stuff!! How is this gonna help 1985 now. He came on here, like I did once when I was having trouble with cel codes, in order to get opinions on his desperate & annoying situation.

I can sense that he has stayed loyal to the likable guy Nick but when you drop a s*** load of money towards a car and "example" your waiting in traffic all pissed off and to top it all off, bam....a cel code or blip here and a blip there......s*** that makes you wanna kill when you finally get home. The guy just wants the car running well....probably doesn't have the time or the tools to freakin disconnect things or start cleaning injectors!!

Now everyone is pissed off, the subject is completely changed.....and his car still runs like s***. If the damage isn't done yet....I suggest 1985 stays loyal and brings back the car to Nick for one more try. If that doesn't work......book a time with Kooldino and FTW!!

 

[Focus]

Enough with the shut up.....no you shut up stuff!! How is this gonna help 1985 now. He came on here, like I did once when I was having trouble with cel codes, in order to get opinions on his desperate & annoying situation.

I can sense that he has stayed loyal to the likable guy Nick but when you drop a s*** load of money towards a car and "example" your waiting in traffic all pissed off and to top it all off, bam....a cel code or blip here and a blip there......s*** that makes you wanna kill when you finally get home. The guy just wants the car running well....probably doesn't have the time or the tools to freakin disconnect things or start cleaning injectors!!

Now everyone is pissed off, the subject is completely changed.....and his car still runs like s***. If the damage isn't done yet....I suggest 1985 stays loyal and brings back the car to Nick for one more try. If that doesn't work......book a time with Kooldino and FTW!!

OK, let's talk about your situation. Shall we pull out an email that you wrote to Nick describing the exact problems you were having beofre goin to Dana to tune your car ? THE EXACT problems you describe in your email before even going to nick's shop?

 

[Focus]

Another Question Dana, have you ever tried to help nick with improving service/quality if you thinks it's so bad? Or you only bashing him ?

 

[Jaysanooch]

OK, let's talk about your situation. Shall we pull out an email that you wrote to Nick describing the exact problems you were having beofre goin to Dana to tune your car ? THE EXACT problems you describe in your email before even going to nick's shop?

What does having a vacuum leak...which Nick fixed for me have anything to do with what I went through after leaving his shop. I went to him with a car with NO ******* CEL CODE EVER....my car had never been played with electrically, my car had 28000km. I left his shop...and felt my first idle dip ever and stalled while taking off, just before hitting the Parkway North. Half way home approaching the Adirondacks......I get CHECK ENGINE....a light I've never seen since I've own the car. Shitting my pants in the rain storm in complete darkness....the cel light was not comforting at all.

If you keep the subject to after my trip I'll be glad to discuss whatever you want, I'll even meet you in person. I'm the most honest person you will find....nothing to hide. I've kept my cool, never bashed Nick in a thread, believe it or not but I still respect Nick and his shop...it's hard not to like the guy when you meet him in person.

But with respect to my car and the way it was running.....like the guy or not I wasn't sleeping anymore!!! Getting the answers and support from Kooldino who clearly sold me on the idea of...."Come down when you can and you'll never see a cel code again". I went with my gut and I'm so thankfull today.

 

[Kooldino]

Another Question Dana, have you ever tried to help nick with improving service/quality if you thinks it's so bad? Or you only bashing him ?

Well, while it's not really my place to help him improve his business, I have given him my opinions on some things. But, he's set in his ways, and wants to do things his way, which is fine.

For the record, he's publicly bashed me (to say the least) on several occasions, but that's besides the point.

Ultimately it's his business, and while I have tried to make suggestions to him in the past (even years ago when we were friendly), it's really not my call. I tried to help him, and he didn't like my ideas. Much of his work leaves a lot to be desired to this day. It really just bothers me to see this happening on a regular basis.

:-(

I apologize if I come across as harsh at times, but really, I do mean well for the community overall.

 

[Kooldino]

What does having a vacuum leak...which Nick fixed for me have anything to do with what I went through after leaving his shop. I went to him with a car with NO ******* CEL CODE EVER....my car had never been played with electrically, my car had 28000km. I left his shop...and felt my first idle dip ever and stalled while taking off, just before hitting the Parkway North. Half way home approaching the Adirondacks......I get CHECK ENGINE....a light I've never seen since I've own the car. Shitting my pants in the rain storm in complete darkness....the cel light was not comforting at all.

If you keep the subject to after my trip I'll be glad to discuss whatever you want, I'll even meet you in person. I'm the most honest person you will find....nothing to hide. I've kept my cool, never bashed Nick in a thread, believe it or not but I still respect Nick and his shop...it's hard not to like the guy when you meet him in person.

But with respect to my car and the way it was running.....like the guy or not I wasn't sleeping anymore!!! Getting the answers and support from Kooldino who clearly sold me on the idea of...."Come down when you can and you'll never see a cel code again". I went with my gut and I'm so thankfull today.

^That's all there is to it.

Jason saw first hand the results of Nick's work, since he was watching me as I worked on his car. I drove the car before I worked on it (which was exactly how it was when it left Nick's shop), and after I worked on it. The difference was day and night. At complete random, the car would completely cut all power, it felt like it would hit imaginary brick walls, the idle would go haywire on occasion, IIRC, etc. Things just weren't right. And Jason's car was just one car in a long list of cars I've driven with the same issues from Nick.

Again, I'm not saying that Nick is a scammer or that he's a bad businessman, or that he will eat your babies. The fact that he and I no longer get along is besides the point. Even when we did get along, I still felt the same way about much of his work. I just don't want to have to watch another guy go through the same exact thing that countless others have before him. Hope you understand.

 

[Blake]

^That's all there is to it.

Jason saw first hand the results of Nick's work, since he was watching me as I worked on his car. I drove the car before I worked on it (which was exactly how it was when it left Nick's shop), and after I worked on it. The difference was day and night. At complete random, the car would completely cut all power, it felt like it would hit imaginary brick walls, the idle would go haywire on occasion, IIRC, etc. Things just weren't right. And Jason's car was just one car in a long list of cars I've driven with the same issues from Nick.

Again, I'm not saying that Nick is a scammer or that he's a bad businessman, or that he will eat your babies. The fact that he and I no longer get along is besides the point. Even when we did get along, I still felt the same way about much of his work. I just don't want to have to watch another guy go through the same exact thing that countless others have before him. Hope you understand.

Well put, I agree 100% with this statement.

 

[junya1985]

well look i didn't want to start a thread on bashing nick cause he is a really nice guy and anytime i got a quick question he helps me out. All that I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with my car and Nick told me today to try and put some fuel injector cleaner in it see if it helps i'm hoping tom. that i can pull my car in the shop and check it out. So as of right now i might be taking out the MPI tuner and seeing if there is anything else wrong with my car or if it's the MPI tuner(Now all i need is some time)

 

[Antoine]

Everybody has spent more than enough posts trying to "express" their opinion about Nick and MP.

Let's refocus this thread and simply help Junya.

Thanks!

 

[Jaysanooch]

Bump for an update!?!