Overfilling oil can clog a brand new EGR valve

You said that the dealer told you that overfilling the oil caused the EGR to fail, that there is BS. I have no doubt your car had some problems, but my point is that too much oil does not equal EGR failure. Just because the dealer says something doesn't mean its correct, I had a dealer tell me my brand new tires would not pass safety because they were too worn.
 
Considering i put in a full 5 quarts in at every change (10k miles with full synthetic) and this hasn't killed my EGR, i will claim shenanigans on the dealership.
 
Considering i put in a full 5 quarts in at every change (10k miles with full synthetic) and this hasn't killed my EGR, i will claim shenanigans on the dealership.

And you do this why?

I guess I haven't really looked critically at how the EGR valve would be affected by overfilling. What I don't get is why some people purposely overfill.
 
^Yeah! Overfilling (if so much) the oil level is above the crank - you create stress and froth the oil. BadBadBad.

4qt with the bigger (Millenia) oil filter FTW! ;)
 
1. out cars barley handle a lil over 3 qt of oil and you are putting in 5?? dear lord so not good for motors


2. bigger oilfilter? do you know the size? and does it just screw right on.....i hate how small our filters are
 
I run the Millenia oil filter as well with 4 quarts and so far no problems
 
It's just a bigger filter. Screws on just the same, but isn't an inch and a half long

And, it still fits EVEN with a Prosport Sandwich plate
 
It's just a bigger filter. Screws on just the same, but isn't an inch and a half long

And, it still fits EVEN with a Prosport Sandwich plate

awesome man...thanks for that....hell i was half tempted to find the relocation kit so i can run a bigger filter
 
Millenia filter is bigger than the 626 filter? 626 filter is huge.

I've been debating using a larger filter. What's the point really, except the intuitive "bigger is better" argument?

I mean, Mazda fitted the FS-DE with a smaller filter for reason. Y/N?

2. bigger oilfilter? do you know the size? and does it just screw right on.....i hate how small our filters are

Yeah, the filter for 2002 Mazda 626 2.5L fits and is about twice as tall, but see my concern above.
 
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ok....the way i understand it is that a bigger filter works multitude of ways.....alows more whatever through at the same rate and also will filter better....

look at it like airfilters.....i just put a cai on and the filter probably has 2x the surface area than the stock airbox one allowing more airflow....and personally i have seen a filter as small as the one on the fsde motor....i actually twinged when i saw it for the first time....i've seen fuel filters bigger
 
If you look at NAPA filter specifications their filters for the Millenia and the Protege 5, both flow 9-10 GPM and their micron rating is 19. The bigger Millenia filter doesn't flow any better nor filter better. It does have bigger filter media and perhaps would take longer to clog if you let the oil get dirty enough. Otherwise there seems to be little or no advantage gained by using the bigger filter

http://www.napafilters.com/filterlo...526&TempEngine=&TempSubModel=-1&TempYear=2002

http://www.napafilters.com/filterlo...511&TempEngine=&TempSubModel=-1&TempYear=2002

Clifton
 
If you look at NAPA filter specifications their filters for the Millenia and the Protege 5, both flow 9-10 GPM and their micron rating is 19. The bigger Millenia filter doesn't flow any better nor filter better. It does have bigger filter media and perhaps would take longer to clog if you let the oil get dirty enough. Otherwise there seems to be little or no advantage gained by using the bigger filter

http://www.napafilters.com/filterlo...526&TempEngine=&TempSubModel=-1&TempYear=2002

http://www.napafilters.com/filterlo...511&TempEngine=&TempSubModel=-1&TempYear=2002

Clifton
That was my point exactly. The advantage is marginal. Yes, it's got more filter area, but it would take tens of thousands of miles for it to really matter.
ok....the way i understand it is that a bigger filter works multitude of ways.....alows more whatever through at the same rate and also will filter better....

look at it like airfilters.....i just put a cai on and the filter probably has 2x the surface area than the stock airbox one allowing more airflow....and personally i have seen a filter as small as the one on the fsde motor....i actually twinged when i saw it for the first time....i've seen fuel filters bigger
I see your point and I don't mean to nitpick, but it's a known fact that you lose low-end torque with an aftermarket intake setup. With turbo, sure it's worth it, but with NA, the mod is not worth it for me.

edit: And the key is to make a good amount of torque for as long as possible in each given gear, so peak torque at 6500 rpm or whatever is really not relevant.
 
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But the stock intake usually strangles the induction pathway so much that anything is an improvement, as long as you don't go too large and lose that mid-range.

A larger oil filter helps in that it allows you to run more oil. More oil means more protection from lateral-G induced oil starvation, and more fluid medium to absorb heat. That's at least half of the benefit of an oil cooler. An oil cooler set-up has more oil to resist starvation, more fluid medium to absorb heat, and a heat exchanger to remove that heat from the fluid.

I wonder if my engine would have survived without the cooler? I did one road trip of just over an hour spending about half that time close to redline, with some stretches where the car is pegged to redline. (disclaimer: I don't live in the United States). When we got to our destination, in the middle of absolutely nowhere... I was over 1 liter down... but thanks to the oil cooler, my capacity is about 5-6 liters, so the engine was still well oiled and I got home with no problems.
 
If you look at NAPA filter specifications their filters for the Millenia and the Protege 5, both flow 9-10 GPM and their micron rating is 19. The bigger Millenia filter doesn't flow any better nor filter better. It does have bigger filter media and perhaps would take longer to clog if you let the oil get dirty enough. Otherwise there seems to be little or no advantage gained by using the bigger filter

http://www.napafilters.com/filterlo...526&TempEngine=&TempSubModel=-1&TempYear=2002

http://www.napafilters.com/filterlo...511&TempEngine=&TempSubModel=-1&TempYear=2002

Clifton

Why are the part numbers the same for different filters? The height and width specs are different, but the part number is the same. I don't understand.

I use the 626 and the extra oil makes me feel better. Plus, there's more filter media, so one way or another, it makes a difference. I'm fine accepting that it's a very small one.
 
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