new rotors?

[Dexter]

I was thinkng the same exact thing.

 

[Dexter]

Protege5 brakes
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Type​

</TD><TD align=middle width=340>Power assist (ABS optional)</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=80 bgColor=#ecece4>

Front​

</TD><TD align=middle width=340 bgColor=#ecece4>Ventilated discs (10.2 x 0.9 in)</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=80 bgColor=#ecece4>

Rear​

</TD><TD align=middle width=340 bgColor=#ecece4>Solid discs (10.3x0.4 in)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


MSP brakes
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Front​

</TD><TD align=middle width=340 bgColor=#ccccc4>Euro-spec ventilated front disc (274mm / 10.8") and high-friction brake pads</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=80 bgColor=#ccccc4>

Rear​

</TD><TD align=middle width=340 bgColor=#ccccc4>Euro-spec solid rear disc, (280 mm / 11.0")

and high friction brake pads
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[vodapas77]

My bad Dex. Mazda really screwed us for after-market rotors. lol. Unless the 323 is big enough in Europe to have its own aftermarket. lol.

As for why the rear rotors are bigger. That's a good question. Of course 6 mm difference probably doesn't matter much.

 

[Dexter]

Hm....

 

[vodapas77]

Hm....

Uh oh... He's up to something. lol.

 

[mspdfreak]

Makes no damn sense!!

 

[vodapas77]

But I must say I think it looks better.

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

hmm... i say freak that. i'm getting the whole damn brake system replace with kvr in the rear and stoptech up front.

 

[mspdfreak]

Just make sure they'll clear your wheels!

 

[1FASTMSP]

i am just curious what info comes out of this, been wanting new rotors myself

 

[03MSP]

Dexter I get the same thing when I brake maybe its something more then warped rotors? Because I only have 14000 mi on my car. I rarely ever brake hard and i never drove through deep puddles when my rotors were really hot. Plus theres another thread stating info about this pulsating problem. Anyways Wilwood also makes brake kits for our cars dont know if they just make rotors though. Good Luck

My rotors warped around 8,000 miles, and I finally got them turned by the dealer at 12,000. If you feel that pulsation when braking while stoping at a light, then the rotors are warped.

 

[irr5302]

The msp use the 929 front disc 1992-95

in brembo this specification is 10.8

e mail

info@brakeworld.com

Ismael thank you for bringing that to our attention the price has been fixed, http://www.brakeworld.com/catalog.asp?page_id=item&invid=26-051&invidtype=

shipping would be around 60.00 for priority mail, if we can help you w/ ordering this product let us know as our internet ordering system does not allow orders outside the continental U.S.

john
866-272-5396

 

[instylz]

nice so we do have brembo options. Nice to hear What about the rears?

 

[Dexter]

The msp use the 929 front disc 1992-95

in brembo this specification is 10.8

e mail

info@brakeworld.com

Ismael thank you for bringing that to our attention the price has been fixed, http://www.brakeworld.com/catalog.asp?page_id=item&invid=26-051&invidtype=

shipping would be around 60.00 for priority mail, if we can help you w/ ordering this product let us know as our internet ordering system does not allow orders outside the continental U.S.

john
866-272-5396

Front is 10.9", no?

 

[Dexter]

I don't know what this 'euro-spec' crap is, I looked up the Turbo Diesel Protege brakes in EBC's European market catalogue...

2.0 TD (BJ1) 98- D1125 V 4
257mm

257mm = 10.1"
so, what the hell...
and plus, that 4 means its a 4 bolt pattern...not 5...so how the hell are our brakes 'euro-spec'

 

[Dexter]

The regular '323' brakes are these:

2.0 2001- D1191 V 5 274 48 24 22

5 bolt pattern and 274mm... = 10.79"

close, but not the 10.9".

 

[Msp-titanium]

for the bigger rear rotor i think is for
a better front/rear brake balance (shrug)

 

[srd555]

Hello all,

I just upgraded my brake system and this is what I did:

Since, like you guys are finding out, the MSP rotors are so had to fit in the aftermarket (except for the KVR, which I dont like from a bad experience with another car I had) I decided to see what can be done with the stock rotor.

I had a set of front rotors on my old Subaru impreza cryo treated and they lasted untill I sold the car. Thats 80K without ever warping and I went through 3.5 Mintex 1166 pads (not rotor friendly).

I contacted Bill Groschen @ http://www.frozenrotors.com/ to ask if they had an application for the MSP. the answer was " no but we can run out to the nearest Mazda dealership and pick up a set, cryo treat them and send it out to you". This would cost:

$75.60 for each front rotor from Mazda after tax. ( I checked with my local dealer and they were going for $70)
$56.00 to cryo treat each rotor.

Thats $263.20 for both rotors cryo treated and $20 S/H to Miami for a total of $283.20 shipped. I also opted for the $45 per rotor slotting which brought the total to $373.20.

My next step was to order the Carbotech Bobcats for all 4 corners. All I can say is WOW.

USEFULL INFO:

MSP Front Rotor p/n GF3Y3325XA(from mazda)
Frozen Rotors FAQ http://www.frozenrotors.com/brakefaq.shtml
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[Dexter]

Good info dude, really awesome...

so a bit under 300 for rotors that should last the lifetime of the car...not bad....

 

[srd555]

Oh yeah I forgot, the rotors came with a strip of temp sensitive paint on the outer edge.

The color key is as follows:

Red Ambient temp.
Rust 700 deg F
Orange 875 deg F
Yellow 1000 deg F
Pale yellow 1200 deg F
Gray Green 1475 deg F


But after 850 miles of my driving (wrc) the paint is still red. (shrug)

Maybe its those stupid Bobcats stoping the car before they have time to heat up. (thumb)