MSP under the knife

I kinda figure screw it. I have seen some 260-280hp n/a integras, and they will whup the hell out of the 300+hp turbos in drivability so why not with our cars.
 
wow nick where are you located? and what i sthe name of your shop i would love to find out and start thinking about my next big upgrade. good luck and i cant wait to see some dyno charts. thanks in advance and keep up the good work
 
shinzen said:
I kinda figure screw it. I have seen some 260-280hp n/a integras, and they will whup the hell out of the 300+hp turbos in drivability so why not with our cars.
Turbo's make torque - torque moves cars.

Turbo wins
 
MPNick said:
Here is the cylinder head being resurfaced. It took .005 to get it flat. We did a mild port and polish on the ports and chambers.


Thanks again

Later..........Nick
did they put it on a mill to do that or throw it on a lapping table?
 
Maz_Speed13 said:
wow nick where are you located? and what i sthe name of your shop i would love to find out and start thinking about my next big upgrade. good luck and i cant wait to see some dyno charts. thanks in advance and keep up the good work

Correct me if I'm wrong....

His shop is in West Long Branch, NJ
The name is Modern Performance Inc.
 
RyanJayG said:
did they put it on a mill to do that or throw it on a lapping table?
The head and block is cut on a over head milling machine. It is a Van Norman MG3000. It has the CBN cutting toolbits. You get a very smooth finish [RA] on the surface when you are done. Most of the older system that some shops still use will not meet the right [RA] finish for the MLS gasket used in todays engines.


Thanks again


Later........Nick
 
Hey nick..some nice pics..i was at the shop..and nick was nice enough to show me the pistons and rods..also how the block was machined...

The car will be nice..can't wait to see her run the 1/4 mile...What size turbo yo goin w/?

Chas
 
igdrasil said:
Are you working on the Throttle Body and/or the intake manifold or leaving it stock?
We have a few things we will try as we move along this race season. For now the idea is how far we can push the MSP with lots of boost along with good pistons and rods. Also the most inportant thing is tuning with the MPI. We spent alot of time on the porting stand. I now we made gains there. Before we bolt on things like bigger valves, camshafts, bigger turbo and other things. We what to see where we hit the wall.

Bigger throttle body and a better intake will help in making more topend power. I am not sure how much it will cost us in everyday street driving. I have seen cars make great looking power on the dyno at the higher rpms many times. Only to see them run slower at the track and even run like crap driving around town. Dyno do not race cars, bigger is not always better, and sometimes less is more.


Thanks again


Later..........Nick
 
so you think the manifold and spipe porting are going to show some gains? ive got mine just laying around right now and the porting might not be a bad idea.
 
MP3skaterNC said:
so you think the manifold and spipe porting are going to show some gains? ive got mine just laying around right now and the porting might not be a bad idea.
A gas engine is a hot air pump. The more air and cooler air temps you can get into and out of the engine the more power you should make if you can keep the AFR spot on. In the past porting and polishing has always made more lowend torque on any turbo engine we built. Total max hp did not always go up because total air flow was still limited to the flow of the turbo. Take the max CFM flow of the turbo within its sweet zone and then multiply it by.7 and you will find your max power. This is good formula that has always worked for us.

Because we found that the turbo had alot of "overhang" on the exhaust elbow I do think that we will add more total air flow. I know we can add the right amount of fuel with the MPI Tuner so we do not have problem that I can see. All this is only talk until I get the car together and down to the dyno.

Thanks again


Later........Nick
 
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