MSP Intake Poll without FMIC.
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Kool man,
Just wondering cuz my hardpipes and SRI will be in this week and with all the debate around here, i want to create some type of ram air project. I might just route some large diameter tubing to an area behind the front bumper and run it up to the intake. Then I'm probably gonna fab some type of heat shield...
EDIT: Do you mean you used the package that came with the DG hood? Or did you use something else?
Just wondering cuz my hardpipes and SRI will be in this week and with all the debate around here, i want to create some type of ram air project. I might just route some large diameter tubing to an area behind the front bumper and run it up to the intake. Then I'm probably gonna fab some type of heat shield...
EDIT: Do you mean you used the package that came with the DG hood? Or did you use something else?
The DG hood came with the regular protege SRI. I did use that, but I had to have a nipple tig welded on the piece after the MAF and have a lot cut off each side of the piece before the MAF plus the hole for the temp sensor re-drilled. In this process I messed up the filter pretty bad taking measurement and trying to see how to get it to fit, but in the end it was worth it (works great!). Just make sure if you do fab something up to make something to shield the water out. When I post the pics you'll get the idea.
mattybo said:
Here are the pics you wanted. I still have to get about an inch cut off the pipe going to the filter to make it fit perfectly (it's a little tight right now). You know what the most amazing thing is? My shifts from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th are so damn smooth with this setup. I am guessing it's because the air is already flowing and the turbo doesn't have to work so hard to spool back up when you let off the gas and then floor it again. It felt like the turbo had about a 1/2 second delay to get boosting before I had this setup (must have had to work to pull in air). Another amazing thing is there is absolutely no turkey. Even after I had the dual BPV/BOV setup if I really floored it and did a quick hard shift I could hear a little turkey. Now I can't get it at all(awesome). I hated the turkey because no matter what anyone said you knew if you were a logical person that it was the cavitation caused by the backpressure from the TB closing. Anyone who has worked with sonar is very familiar with cavitation principles. It took me a while to do this setup, so I was running just the SRI till last week until I modified it to get the ram air setup to fit. It was a pain in the ass (and a lot of trial and error), but all those people who said a ram-air setup wouldn't work well with a turbo car have lost points in my book. Physics and logic will always prevail over opinion
Here are the pics (I still have to relocate the BOV because it is getting hot where it is).
Here are the pics (I still have to relocate the BOV because it is getting hot where it is).Attachments
Sorry I didn't take pictures of that. There is a 1 or 1 1/2 inch gap at the back of that piece of CF. The CF piece is the water shield (you don't want rain water directly hitting your filter). The way the CF piece is angled the air hits the back of the black tunnel and shoots through that gap in the back. The water goes out small holes in the bottom and the cold air swirls around and into the filter of your SRI for smooth running. It really works excellent. I probably have one of the smoothest turbo accelerations for someone running stock boost stock exhaust stock IC. The only performance mods I have is that ram-air setup and turbohoses hardpipes with the BOV. It feels like a different car no kidding.mattybo said:
An IC does not cool down your turbo (the turbo gets hot too). You noticed how your stock intake was set up to get outside air instead of hot engine air? That was done for a reason. The CAI doesn't have good flow properties though. I solved that problem035msp said:
lamp3 said:
One thing I noticed is when I would switch from CAI to SRI, I would have to turn down the MBC because when the CAI is on, the turbo has to work harder to pull the air in. Atleast that is what I figure is going on.
BTW, can't we just design a three inch pipe pointed downwards with a filter on the end? Benefits of having SRI and CAI...
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