MP3, MSP and P5 Engine Management solution

[MPNick]

THIS thread is strickly for comments and questions regarding the AEM EMS solution we have for the protege. Please do not post here unless you are interested in future products we are offering to the community.
The words and phrases "piggybacks" are not owned by any one individual.
Start a thread on "piggybacks" and I will go into detail as to what the real difference is.

I would think your cause would be better helped if you post facts and not opinions. If you mean that one piggyback has problem and another does not then please post it that way.


Thanks again


Later...........Nick

 

[Turbo Matty P]

he's not saying one is better than the other...he's saying his will have ultimate tuneability at an affordable price. He even mentions that comparable units exsist, but he felt THIS was the best platform. He didn't stoop low and say anything about you, your product or question your ability. He's only marketing and fielding questions from HIS product only. Eat balls.

Thanks again

Later.........Matty

 

[p5sundevil]

Thats it, I dont think thats what he means by the quote you posted, he is talking about piggy's in comparison to stand alone units like the one this thread is about. Although I suppose it could be used in piggyback format the whole purpose of the R&D and making of this EMS was for it not to be used as a piggyback but as a standalone or parallel system, because of what it can do for you. I dont think it is cost effective to get this unit as a piggyback unit for your car.

If I understood right anyway.

 

[Bigg Tim]

So how many protege's are running this unit??? Can those who have it chime in, or is it on your test mule?
If it's only on your car, then how can people get accurate info about it, I mean your opinion would be bias because you are selling it.
Again if you have it on you car only, how can you tune it for MP3's or MSP's for people to buy?
Wouldn't you need a test mule of each type, this is not referring to the full stand alone units only the ones that keep the stock ECU.

 

[VizaX]

It doesnt need to be model specific its a stand alone you tune it to your car...

 

[MPNick]

It doesnt need to be model specific its a stand alone you tune it to your car...

This is the same with computer or piggyback.


Thanks again


Later.........Nick

 

[perfworks]

I am going to ask one more time for you two to please not post in this thread.
I am asking nicely. Obviously you are trying to start a problem. BUT it wont be taken out here. This thread is not about your products. So please refrain from posting. Thank you

 

[perfworks]

I'll tell you all what I think we should do. I tried to give the forum members here the heads up on our products. But some dont seem to have any respect at all for forum rules and conduct. SO like I have said in prior posts we will allow the unit to speak for itself.
To make the minority of the threatened individuals happy I will smear Sorry I mean post the dyno results along with pertinent info once our R&D is done all over the forum.
That should take place in two weeks
Anyway if anyone has any more relevant comments or questions feel free to ask. I will do my best to answer in a timely manner.
Thanks

 

[perfworks]

It doesnt need to be model specific its a stand alone you tune it to your car...

We would like to come out with the Parallel unit first. Then we will work to develop the standalone fully by the spring. Hopefully by that time the datastream for the dash will be available thru our software.

 

[igdrasil]

You know what should be nice?

To post a couple of dynos...maybe one with some errors and one fixed. Maybe you should post the some crappy dyno, and maybe others showing some corrections, richer, leaner.

 

[SDMSP]

I don't know if you've answered this already but would your unit clear any CEL or do I still need to have a scann tool? the reason I ask is I'm thinking about buying one right now but if you unit does it, I'll save my money.

 

[perfworks]

What we had in mind was the following:
Base line runs on a stock pro, same dyno, same day. Then staged upgrades for the NA croud and the FI.
We will show before and after charge temps, boost pressures and power levels. It will be very informative to see the ACTUAL gains you get thru having complete control over duty cycle and timing lead with the AEM EMS calculation.
Trust me when I say alot of pople will be very happy and some very surprised at the power levels that can be achieved thru proper tuning techniques. Stay tuned.

 

[perfworks]

I don't know if you've answered this already but would your unit clear any CEL or do I still need to have a scann tool? the reason I ask is I'm thinking about buying one right now but if you unit does it, I'll save my money.

The unit will not interfere with the OBDII. It will not clear any codes.
The unit though, most likely will never set a code from its functions.
It will be a seperate system.

 

[AnthonyO3]

so will this stand alone system will it be compatible with any turbo system, Hiboost, FM, Spool etc...?
Also for the Mp3's what is the highest PSI do you plan to make it run on stock internals safely?
Thanks,
Anthony

 

[perfworks]

so will this stand alone system will it be compatible with any turbo system, Hiboost, FM, Spool etc...?
Also for the Mp3's what is the highest PSI do you plan to make it run on stock internals safely?
Thanks,
Anthony

Yes it will work on ANY turbo kit or system. You must understand that it isnt a matter of boost. It will depend on the size of the turbo and any modifications to the rest of the intake and exhaust.
Typically with T3 we would like to run 10 psi consistently on pump gas daily. With the AEM this will be possible safely.
The rods in the FS have a very big problem with tensile loading. It is not a very strong motor internaly. That is why we offer a forged internal package for a very good price. That way you are assured of durability for a given boost pressure

 

[TDK]

Hi Nick,

In one of your previous posts you said that you would post the price of the injectors. Can you please give the prices of the different sizes. Also, did you get my email about the forged internals we were discussing.

Thanks

 

[jaman]

So how many protege's are running this unit??? Can those who have it chime in, or is it on your test mule?
If it's only on your car, then how can people get accurate info about it, I mean your opinion would be bias because you are selling it.

Why do people keep nagging him about the dynos and such?? Perfworks said 20 times already that they are comming soon. Have some patience!! If nothing is out in a month or so, then I'll join your nagging too

As a P5 owner, I'm really glad about all the work that is starting to come about regarding real ECU mods. That goes for both the MPI tunner and AEM. I pretty sure that in several months everything will be out in the open and we can have real comparisons between the two units.

 

[MPNick]

I am going to ask one more time for you two to please not post in this thread.
I am asking nicely. Obviously you are trying to start a problem. BUT it wont be taken out here. This thread is not about your products. So please refrain from posting. Thank you

I will not talk about the MPI Tuner here any longer, you win big guy. I would just like to ask you about the products that you are talking about in the other threads. What piggyback system are you using in the other two threads that you say are the only way to go. What piggyback system are you using when you posted why you should never use any stand alone system. What piggyback system are you using when you post the even with a parallel system people will have tons of problems. What system are you using when you say that the extra injectors are the best way to go and that you should never use bigger injectors. Why to you feel that the stand alone would be a problem running with a OBDII car in the other threads ut not in this thread.

I am not thread jacking here. I am asking about the products that you are talking about in the other threads. In those threads you say the the piggyback system you are selling is the best way and the only way to go.


Thanks again


Later..........Nick

 

[Turbo Matty P]

He's not talking about other piggybacks....he's in THIS thread...andswering questions about THIS product. If you want to continue a conversation from a prevgious thread GO TO THAT THREAD AND SPAM IT UP.

I'll be very surprised if anyone buys anything from you after seeing how you act on here.

seriously, eat balls.

thanks again


later......matty

 

[Bigg Tim]

It doesnt need to be model specific its a stand alone you tune it to your car...

I wasn't talking about stand alones, I was referring to the parrallel's. Everyone always asks other's for dyno's, so I'm asking here.

Perf, those were legit questions. People need more than you saying it's working or what it can do. It would look better if there were actual customers running it who can testify on how it works. I'm in no way saying it won't work or it's crap, I just want more info from someone other than the people making it, I went down that raod before, remember? I want people to see what other people are experiencing when using your unit, then that way there will be more info than just the info you are providing.(Not that it is not correct).