MP3, MSP and P5 Engine Management solution

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So when you're starting to take orders? I'm hoping you'll have it out by mid March, I have a track event at end of March and would love to have this :)
 
^^ Yeah like he said, I promise not to ask anymore questions if you just let us know on when the parrallel unit will be available.
Thanks,
Vik.
 
We would like to be ready for the beginning of march. Once we get a few units back from testing we will confirm operation one more time. After that, Dyno runs, Tuning and confirmation again, we will post results and begin to reviel all our findings. AT that point we will start a GB.
Once the units are dyno run though we will start to take orders. So that we make sure we can get the demand filled. The responce has been overwhelming to say the least. I appreciate everyones comments and questions.
Thank you all for your patience. It wont be long now.
If there are any more questions feel free to ask. I will do my best to answer all of them.
 
Information Overload...

Wow, thats all I can say. I do have one questions,

Will the parrallel also contain a Turbo timer?

simple enough :)

Oh yes, Great work!
 
perfworks said:
We would like to be ready for the beginning of march. Once we get a few units back from testing we will confirm operation one more time. After that, Dyno runs, Tuning and confirmation again, we will post results and begin to reviel all our findings. AT that point we will start a GB.
Once the units are dyno run though we will start to take orders. So that we make sure we can get the demand filled. The responce has been overwhelming to say the least. I appreciate everyones comments and questions.
Thank you all for your patience. It wont be long now.
If there are any more questions feel free to ask. I will do my best to answer all of them.
Is the group buy going to take like 3 month's ? I've never done one buy i've seen on the board that it takes a long time.
And another question, (sorry, couldn't help my self) is the transition from closed to open loop going to be harsh like it is now, since you're doing it only when you hit the boost. Let's say i'd be cruising along and go to pass someone, but not too fast, and accidently go into boost for just a second is it going to jerk around, kind of like it does know at like 4500 rpm at half throuttle?

Thanks,
Vik.
 
VizaX said:
Information Overload...

Wow, thats all I can say. I do have one questions,

Will the parrallel also contain a Turbo timer?

simple enough :)

Oh yes, Great work!
Not in standard form. BUT it is an interesting thought to get working. Very good idea. Let me work on that
 
ViksMSP said:
Is the group buy going to take like 3 month's ? I've never done one buy i've seen on the board that it takes a long time.
And another question, (sorry, couldn't help my self) is the transition from closed to open loop going to be harsh like it is now, since you're doing it only when you hit the boost. Let's say i'd be cruising along and go to pass someone, but not too fast, and accidently go into boost for just a second is it going to jerk around, kind of like it does know at like 4500 rpm at half throuttle?

Thanks,
Vik.
The group buy will be only two weeks. Maybe longer depending on the responce.

The transition is smooth. It is completely tuned thru the AEM for performance first. Our mapping isn't generic. It is performance oriented. The load and crank speed values come together well. Again the values will be drastically different depending on the various induction and exhaust systems on the cars. But we have a good database to work from.
It will match very well to the particular vehicle rather than a generic map for all cars. The system will have room for error when adding future mods to the system. It will correct itself on many things regarding A/F ratio
 
thanks for quick answer,
just one more i promise.
those of us that have downpipes without cats and installed resistors so that we don't pull a CEL, will we be able to get rid of the resistor? cause I think that's although it doesn't pull a CEL it kind of screw's up the AFR's a bit. What do you think, resistor a good fix or a temporary one?

Thanks again,
Vik.
 
VERY GOOD QUESTION!! I think this unit has the ability to actually display and turn off CEL's....i think this was covered before...i may be wrong.
 
I think this is great nick, but i might have missed it, or you might not have listed it yet, but what kind of price are we looking at here? And how long are you going to offer it?
 
ViksMSP said:
thanks for quick answer,
just one more i promise.
those of us that have downpipes without cats and installed resistors so that we don't pull a CEL, will we be able to get rid of the resistor? cause I think that's although it doesn't pull a CEL it kind of screw's up the AFR's a bit. What do you think, resistor a good fix or a temporary one?

Thanks again,
Vik.
Vik,
There is no need any longer for any "devices". The FM voltage clamp is really a great unit, (i know that is not what you have) and so are the MIL eliminators. BUTthe system will run as it is supposed to from the factory. The difference is that you have complete control OVER ANY parameter. We run the car like a stock ECU and much better. The "resistor " you speak of is just a "fix" to keep you going so as not to be annoyed by the MIL and cause the ECU to eventually go into limp mode. All you need is the harness and ECU your car originally came with.
 
AnthonyO3 said:
I think this is great nick, but i might have missed it, or you might not have listed it yet, but what kind of price are we looking at here? And how long are you going to offer it?
Right now we are focussing on the most important unit. Parallel. We are hoping to keep a forum GB price of $1450. for the unit. Wideband option and boost control solenoid is extra. After a two week GB we are going to be selling it at retail only. The problem we face is that AEM pricing policy needs to be met and we have alot of time and R&D into the unit. We are going to very close to our cost with the unit. The great thing is this unit will and can be used in many applications that we will designate in the future. So its marketability is great.
Retail pricing is $1595
 
nick, sorry to ask this...but, what is the limp mode...and if its bad, how do I get rid of it and what may have cause the ECU to go limp?
 
igdrasil said:
nick, sorry to ask this...but, what is the limp mode...and if its bad, how do I get rid of it and what may have cause the ECU to go limp?
The industry has branded the term "limp homemode" It means that the vehicles diagnostic system has encouted a serious constant trouble code that hasnt been fixed. After many drive cycles it will cause the car to switch to horrible secondary open loop mapping. Your timing and fuel curves will be horrendously conservative and develop little power. Enough to get you "home" (or the dealer). The the ecu needs to be reset and you start all over again. Usually it wont hold the code (store it) for long but if it continues after battery disconnections it will maintain it so as to be relavant when you go for inspection.
OUR Parallel system allows for complete ECU monitoring and all diagnostic modes . It will still be OBDII compliant. Not like piggybacks that will go outside the various parameters and set check engines lights confusing the ECU into thinking something is terribly wrong.
 
perfworks said:
Not like piggybacks that will go outside the various parameters and set check engines lights confusing the ECU into thinking something is terribly wrong.

Not sure what piggyback you mean. When you have the fuel tune right you have no CEL. If you do not have your system tuned right you will also have a CEL. It will not matter at all what system you run. They both have control over the fuel curve. You just spend about 2.5 time the price for a stand alone that is not been proven on the Mazda.


Thanks again


later............Nick
 
damn son....jealousy is a green-eyed b**** aint it Nick?? Have you ever had this much intrest in a product you've designed?? Fuel enrichment is not the only thing you need to control to prevent a CEL. Any number of things can throw a CEL....I like how you incinuate (sp?) that Perf's ecu is untested and will require 2.5 X's the tuning to run properly. You're as transparent as glass. Unless you're interested in purchasing this product or designing it I don't see why you should be commenting on it.

Thanks again


later.............Matty
 
p.s. did you notice how I made a post basically calling you you an idiot, but 'I ended it politely so as to make people think I'm not being a big fat dick about things.
 
Dude, MPnick, you've got two posts where you're arguing already, why come in here, if people wanted to read your opinions they would read the other two, where both of you are going at it. This is info only, so please just stop it already. What makes you think he was talking about yours? Are you feeling helpless or something?

Vik.
 
ViksMSP said:
Dude, MPnick, you've got two posts where you're arguing already, why come in here, if people wanted to read your opinions they would read the other two, where both of you are going at it. This is info only, so please just stop it already. What makes you think he was talking about yours? Are you feeling helpless or something?

Vik.


Dude, that why I ask what piggyback. Not opinions just stated facts.


Have an nice day.


Thanks again


later.....Nick
 
THIS thread is strickly for comments and questions regarding the AEM EMS solution we have for the protege. Please do not post here unless you are interested in future products we are offering to the community.
The words and phrases "piggybacks" are not owned by any one individual.
Start a thread on "piggybacks" and I will go into detail as to what the real difference is.
 
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