MP3, MSP and P5 Engine Management solution

[perfworks]

both

yup

 

[perfworks]

Here is a question for you that hasn't been asked yet.

Do you know anything about the JDM FS-ZE engine? If so will your system work with it? I have an intake, header, exhaust, and the FS-ZE engine (higher compression) 10:5:1 in my car.

Thanks

Question for you. Do you have the EECV or Jspec OBDI. Either way yes. The difference would just be the harness which I can configure for you. The ZE is not a problem to scale for larger static compression. It will just require a custom tune like any other car.

 

[perfworks]

Can a T3/T4 Garret turbo fit on the Wagner kit? If so I'll just wait until I can afford that and the AEM

He can make anything fit. I have an email I was getting ready for you. I will send it to you this afternoon

 

[perfworks]

Cool, thanks Nick. What size injectors do you think people should go with, if not the 440cc's?

I've been awake for too long now and I'm not sure if I make sense about this stuff anymore.

I understand that you can't say why. And thank you for saying that you can't say why instead of blowing smoke up my ass.

I would go withat least 550cc.
650 cc would be ideal for those who plan on going forged or are already and would like more boost.

 

[igdrasil]

I thought 440 would be good for ~280whp using the RC engineering chart w/ 80% duty cycle and stock fuel pressure ~43psi.
I was thinking on 550 for me and forged internals.

 

[midnightracr]

Hahahahaha...... u can forget about decent gas mileage with those 550 & 650cc injectors. I will have to run them I'm sure if I plan to go with a T3/T4 and a lot of boost

 

[Spooled]

My pants are getting tight...

 

[perfworks]

I thought 440 would be good for ~280whp using the RC engineering chart w/ 80% duty cycle and stock fuel pressure ~43psi.
I was thinking on 550 for me and forged internals.

This is correct. I stated 300 WHP because of the additional enrichment you would receive with the boost compensation on the FPR. 550cc are the best way to go for the protege in my opinion.

 

[perfworks]

My pants are getting tight...

lol

 

[upsman]

Question for you. Do you have the EECV or Jspec OBDI.

What is an EECV?

Im actually running the 2000 ES 1.8L ECU (OBDII) No CEL. Also if I can get the actual air/fuel and timing from the Sport 20 FS-ZE, would that be something that you would be able to program into my application?

 

[igdrasil]

This is correct. I stated 300 WHP because of the additional enrichment you would receive with the boost compensation on the FPR. 550cc are the best way to go for the protege in my opinion.

thats what I was thinking....

550 with a bit of more static fuel pressure controlled with a FPR, this way we can lower the cycle a bit on the injectors.

thats why I was asking the idea of the fmu...the problem with FMU is...that it may dump too much of uneeded fuel along the band....correcting those values may be a pain in the ass, since the fuel pressure may fluctuate depending on boost pressure...

is there something correct above?

 

[perfworks]

Question for you. Do you have the EECV or Jspec OBDI.

What is an EECV?

Im actually running the 2000 ES 1.8L ECU (OBDII) No CEL. Also if I can get the actual air/fuel and timing from the Sport 20 FS-ZE, would that be something that you would be able to program into my application?

EECV is the stock name of the stock Ford ECU found in the Protege 2.0l.
Can you do me a favor and post a pic of your ECU and then the pin connector? Thanks.
Second. The system will run off preprogrammed parameters.
I dont see any reason why I couldnt get it configured for you. Just get me some inof and pics.

 

[Mental Addiction]

I have been working with AEM on many of the Data stream issues.
Hopefully it will be resolved soon for all the Ford EECV ECUs.
From what I understand they are close to compiling all the necessary information needed to finish the PnP for the later EECV mustangs.
It is a fantastic unit and there is alot more to come from this company.
AS far as recognizing problems, It is mainly in the EECV. The way we have configured the unit to plug in, It will perform without a hitch.
Hit me up sometime. I may have some interesting info for you as well you for me.
Who are you working with over at AEM?
turboperformanceworks@yahoo.com

Nick,

We aren't really working with anyone over at AEM.We talked with them and all the R&D is predy much up to us(I'm sure they told you the same thing).We do get help on a few issues, but nothing to endepth.
Are you using a 10/10 box?Have you found a source for the connectors so you can make it full PnP?
Yes, they are getting ready to release the 96-98 Mustang box.They have not completely figured out the data stream issues and are not going to release a box for the cars that have this issue(dash running off ECU) for atleast 3-6 more months.

 

[perfworks]

Nick,

We aren't really working with anyone over at AEM.We talked with them and all the R&D is predy much up to us(I'm sure they told you the same thing).We do get help on a few issues, but nothing to endepth.
Are you using a 10/10 box?Have you found a source for the connectors so you can make it full PnP?
Yes, they are getting ready to release the 96-98 Mustang box.They have not completely figured out the data stream issues and are not going to release a box for the cars that have this issue(dash running off ECU) for atleast 3-6 more months.

NO we are not using the 1010. We are getting a custom unit
The 1010 was originally designed for the Acura. BUT many use it as a universal. It works well, But we needed upgraded software and hardware
As far as the connectors go were are making them ourselves for the EECV harness.
Yes I believe you are right the later mustangs will have an EMS after about 6 months. They should have the issues resolved by then.
We are also working on producing a beta box for the Focus. Are you working with them yet?
I am really looking foward to doing some work on the late model drive by wire cars out this comming year.
What other projects do you work with?
Nick

 

[ViksMSP]

Ok Nick,
So lets say i buy the parallel unit for my MSP and eventually i'll want to trade my car in for like a Mazda 3, can i just have the unit re-programmed and re-pinned for that car. Or would I only be able to do that with a full stand-alone.

Thanks.
Vik.

 

[perfworks]

Ok Nick,
So lets say i buy the parallel unit for my MSP and eventually i'll want to trade my car in for like a Mazda 3, can i just have the unit re-programmed and re-pinned for that car. Or would I only be able to do that with a full stand-alone.

Thanks.
Vik.

Actually that is a very good question.
The new 3 is very different. BUT we are going to offer something for that too in the summer.
IF you decide to go that route we can help take care of that too.

 

[Mental Addiction]

NO we are not using the 1010. We are getting a custom unit
The 1010 was originally designed for the Acura. BUT many use it as a universal. It works well, But we needed upgraded software and hardware
As far as the connectors go were are making them ourselves for the EECV harness.
Yes I believe you are right the later mustangs will have an EMS after about 6 months. They should have the issues resolved by then.
We are also working on producing a beta box for the Focus. Are you working with them yet?
I am really looking foward to doing some work on the late model drive by wire cars out this comming year.
What other projects do you work with?
Nick

The Software and motherboards are all the same for the AEM.If you were to pull apart a Honda box and a Mustang box the motherboard is EXACTLY the same.The difference is the connector that mates the 2 together.
AEM did this for mass production and cost reasons.There motherboards are produced in NV. and the software engineering is done in England.

Yes, we are developing a Turbo kit for the Focus and have talked with a few people about burning chips for us..I would be interested in seeing your box when it's complete.

Current project we are working on:
Twin Turbo Z06 Corvette
Twin Turbo 03 GT Mustang
Turbo Protege
In the next coming months we are looking at finshing the Focus.We have already built the intercooler, turbo header and a few charge pipes.

 

[KzA]

wow twin turbo mustang..delish

im guessing running exta injectors with this EMS wouldn't be any type of problem?..I still like the idea of having the stock injectors then say 4 extras..that way you are very stock off boost, and have the fuel there for boost

Also, when you guys tested with the MAF, MAP and both, what did you find? Which worked out best for you guys in drivablility and tunability?

Nick, we need to do some major catching up..I am buying an engine soon and beginning the long research and planning process for what I want to do this thing, and I'nm sure you will have a few good comments...PM me or call me when your not too busy

 

[Mental Addiction]

There's no need to run extra injectors when you have full control of them(just larger).
The AEM has the ability to run 10 injectors.
My employee has a Banshee with a GSXR motor that is turbo'd and we use the AEM to tune it.

 

[midnightracr]

Nick, I have another for ya

You said that Andy can make a T3/T4 work on his kit. Question is will u be able to tune it properly for the AEM? Also how much boost do u think I will be able to run around town & at the track? Would it really be worth going with a ball-bearing T3/T4 or stick with the T3 Andy's using? but I do prefer the T3/T4