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Can we later upgrade the coils with the parallel system?

what would be the benefit using the stock coils vs aftermarket coils if there is any, besides cost
 
igdrasil said:
Can we later upgrade the coils with the parallel system?

what would be the benefit using the stock coils vs aftermarket coils if there is any, besides cost
Direct fire would be Ideal. Getting rid of external High tension leads will help with spark transfer. You can upgrade the coils at any time. We can also come up with a complete coil on plug setup for you.
BUT the stock setup really is pretty good for the street.
 
Hey Nick...

What won't this thing be able to do? Are there any functions that can't be used simutaneously?
 
xelderx said:
Hey Nick...

What won't this thing be able to do? Are there any functions that can't be used simutaneously?
The only issue with the AEM right now is running the data link connections. Meaning it cant duplicate the signal needed to run the dash display on its own. But we will have that worked out soon also.
I'm serious when I say it can do everything you need it to do.
Compare it to anything else on the market and let me know.
Point for point and dollar for dollar it cant be beat. Not trying to seem modest but it really is an amazing unit.
 
besides the adding HP and trq. what other advantages will it give to the car.. i.e. throttle response gas mileage ???
 
FBI14 said:
besides the adding HP and trq. what other advantages will it give to the car.. i.e. throttle response gas mileage ???
The individual vehicle can be tuned for the specific enviroment and driving habit. We can maintain the boost level thruout the RPM, remove the hesitation upon initial acceleration, Fix the dreaded Pig rich condition in WOT and mid range throttle position, ETC. We tune out the inefficiencys allowing the vehicle to operate under a state of acceptable limits. This will increase performance and MPG.
 
I'm curious, since the AEM can use any sensor type and such, I'm guessing you have to program all of that in?

Is there some way you can lock it or something so that someone doesn't unknowingly change there motor type from the FS to say, a diesel or something but still alow them access to the tuning features?

Does that even make sense?
 
StuttersC said:
I'm curious, since the AEM can use any sensor type and such, I'm guessing you have to program all of that in?

Is there some way you can lock it or something so that someone doesn't unknowingly change there motor type from the FS to say, a diesel or something but still alow them access to the tuning features?

Does that even make sense?
The calibration will be for the specific vehicle. It wont work if its changed. We are working on locking in the software. Its hard to do and allow the enduser all the control I would need from them to datalog and then upload the new calibration setting if they werent allowed to change things. But we will see.. I dont see it being any problem. It would be really difficult for the enduser to "f" things up.
 
perfworks said:
The calibration will be for the specific vehicle. It wont work if its changed. We are working on locking in the software. Its hard to do and allow the enduser all the control I would need from them to datalog and then upload the new calibration setting if they werent allowed to change things. But we will see.. I dont see it being any problem. It would be really difficult for the enduser to "f" things up.

Ok cool. I had heard that with the "power and flexibility" of being able to read any input comes the user accidentally changing something important. But, the supplier could lock some of those settings to prevent the user from inadvertently making those changes.

Which is good, for everyone involved. I'm glad you guys are looking at this from every angle to make sure you getting the end user an awesome product.

Thanks.
 
StuttersC said:
Ok cool. I had heard that with the "power and flexibility" of being able to read any input comes the user accidentally changing something important. But, the supplier could lock some of those settings to prevent the user from inadvertently making those changes.

Which is good, for everyone involved. I'm glad you guys are looking at this from every angle to make sure you getting the end user an awesome product.

Thanks.

I think that can be easily solved. Just make a copy of the data file, do all the changes you want, but leave the original alone, or ask Nick to send you the file so you can load it back.
 
Nick -

You quoted somewhere around this thread that the AEM will be able to do some corrections and that for evey car/application, your help will be needed making some final touch up.

I suppose that if somebody gets the AEM without the WB addition, you wil rely only on the datalog, if it doesnt read A/F ratios, what does the datalog gives you to help tune the car?
Will you need anything from us besides the datalog? Maybe a Dyno or something?

Sorry if I missed this if it has been answered before, I searched a bit and found something not too clear for me about the wideband as an "option".

Thanks
 
igdrasil said:
I think that can be easily solved. Just make a copy of the data file, do all the changes you want, but leave the original alone, or ask Nick to send you the file so you can load it back.
There will always be a start up calibration file for the vehicle. He cant mistakenly overwrite it unless he SPECIFYS thru his laptop that he wants to "save as" that particular file. If anyone was to make any change the software starts blinking in the bottom left hand corner of the frame. It will change it in real time. So if there was a problem they would know right away. There are many things the enduser will not be able to have access to to.
And he will always have a default map that can be loaded in minutes.
 
igdrasil said:
Nick -

You quoted somewhere around this thread that the AEM will be able to do some corrections and that for evey car/application, your help will be needed making some final touch up.

I suppose that if somebody gets the AEM without the WB addition, you wil rely only on the datalog, if it doesnt read A/F ratios, what does the datalog gives you to help tune the car?
Will you need anything from us besides the datalog? Maybe a Dyno or something?

Sorry if I missed this if it has been answered before, I searched a bit and found something not too clear for me about the wideband as an "option".

Thanks
Very good questions.
The reason we say the WB is an option is because people wouldn't be able to distinguish the difference in cost any other way for the unit. In reality to get as accurate as possible we would need the WB reading for A/F accounts across the entire region. Lets just say for s**** and giggles they dont have that and we are working with the stock sensor. We can get it right but not optimal. The customer will be told of the advantages and disadvantages with his particualr choice if he/she elects to go without certain recommendations we pose.
The data logs will allow us to "see" whats going on with the entire fuel and timing curve from accel to decell to start up, etc, etc. It will list parrameters within the Knock control circuit, A/F ratio, MAF readings, etc. Just because we dont have an accurate A/F ratio from the O2 doesnt mean that an experienced tuner cant get it right. It just isn't going to be easy and optimal. Our greatest advantage is that we have a tremendous amount of experience with the Protege and have alot of prior base mapping that we collect and scim thru. Your initial base map will obviously vary from your newly changed calibrations. We compare and re-adjust accordingly.
 
Yep, looks like what we can do to help even more, is to be able to take the car to a dyno and temprarily connect the sniffer that some dynos have.

That is my solution since im not going to buy a Wideband, I already have the Greddy A/F which many people say its reliable for readings between 14:1-10:1 (could be nice to clamp the greddy sensor). Along with the EGT, this setup will be good enough for me...

I already installed the AEM software in the laptop, but I dont have any calibration file, do you have anything around you can send to me? doesnt matter if its from another car, I just want to read every window of the software and without it, it keeps asking for Y axis setup. If it has data logged, even better.

Thanks
 
igdrasil said:
Yep, looks like what we can do to help even more, is to be able to take the car to a dyno and temprarily connect the sniffer that some dynos have.

That is my solution since im not going to buy a Wideband, I already have the Greddy A/F which many people say its reliable for readings between 14:1-10:1 (could be nice to clamp the greddy sensor). Along with the EGT, this setup will be good enough for me...

I already installed the AEM software in the laptop, but I dont have any calibration file, do you have anything around you can send to me? doesnt matter if its from another car, I just want to read every window of the software and without it, it keeps asking for Y axis setup. If it has data logged, even better.

Thanks
Get me an email address.
 
Holy JEEZ! I just read through all 22 pages and have to say I am VERY happy to find out about this EMS, especially since Greg and I decided today that we are going to turbo the P5.

Congrats on your success (and you patience) and we will definately buy one. (thumb)
 
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