MAZDASPEED6 AWD=Bad? why

[MnDriver]

i have a feeling this set up will be perfect with the car (nana)

 

[Da 6]

don't know..the car does plows...how far do you need to plow and will the engagement of the rear wheels gonna be discreet or will it be like the 1-2 shift on the auto and cause you to all of a sudden oversteer? Has anyone convirmed the pilots aren't the oem rubber? Since it's a perfomance vehicle it should get summer tires like the RX-8

 

[Pretzellogic]

If a shitload of hp and AWD is wrong... I don't wanna be right!!!

He he he

 

[MnDriver]

i dunno but its going to have 18 inch rims thats all i know lol should be able to plant the thing real good

 

[crossbow]

Guys.you need to remember that people have been able to change the awd feature on their rides for awhile now. There is usally a computer that will control this feature of the awd..So i am sure in time..some aftermarket companies..will be able to adjust the settings for the awd..to give the proper 50:50 or the more preffered 40:60.

Until you realize that the transfer case is water cooled. "Why's it watercooled" you might ask. Well thats easy, because its off the european mazda 6 wagon with AWD.

"Thats interesting" you'd say, does the european wagon AWD system have a similar amount of torque to the mazdaspeed? Oh wait...s*** it doesn't, it only has 155 ft/lbs...slightly less then 280 ft/lbs.

The reason the car has a 100:0 standard distribution, and a 50:50 max distribution, is because the transfer case would explode if the car ran in AWD mode constantly....thats because its from a weaker powered wagon, and thats why its watercooled.

Compare this setup to a legacy GT's distribution, and you'll see some differences in execution. Even the Jaguar X-type (which is basically the same engine/drivetrain as a mazda 6s sans the transfer case and rear diffy has a 30:70 distribution (standard not max).

If your thinking of getting the mazdaspeed 6, I'd definitely check out the Legacy GT 2.5, and the G35x, both which are within the same price range and have similar setups.

 

[Da 6]

what he said /\

 

[Mike R]

I was wondering if the setup was the same as the jag...that anwerwed that.

 

[crossbow]

Jaguar X-Type
http://www.jaguarusa.com/us/en/vehicles/x-type/performance/performance.htm

AWD That Feels Like Rear-Wheel Drive
Traction 4 automatically compensates for any difference in speed between the front and rear wheels. Under normal conditions, 40 percent of the engines power goes to the front wheels and 60 percent to the rear, making the X-TYPE feel like an enthusiastic rear-wheel drive car. If one wheel starts to slip, as it could under hard acceleration on a patch of ice or gravel, the engines power is automatically and seamlessly directed to the other wheels.

Duratec V6 3.0 Liter Platform. I think the 02's have 30:70...though I could just be wrong and its actually 40:60. (Thats the standard distribution)

There are some 6s members who have started (and not succeeded yet) at figuring out a way to take the jag's system (from a junkyard) and throw it on a 6s.

Infiniti G35x
http://www4.xpresssites.com/lee/lacrosse/au/story.jsp;jsessionid=D9D203765338D6B7F2EA640681F89D1A?_RND=-467440885

addition, Infiniti's system represents minimal compromise of the rear-wheel driving characteristics on dry road favored by true driving enthusiasts. Employing true variable torque distribution, the all-wheel drive system can range from a torque split of 50/50 up to zero/100 percent front-to-rear ratio.

Legacy 2.5 GT
http://www.engine-power.com/subaru/legacy_gt_press.html

Subaru offers three different Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive systems in the 2005 Legacy models, each tailored to the type of transmission. With the 5-speed manual transmission, the system uses a viscous-coupling locking center differential to distribute the power 50/50 front to rear. Slippage at either set of wheels will send more power to the other set of wheels. Legacy 2.5 GT models equipped with the optional 5-speed automatic transmission use a system called Variable Torque Distribution (VTD). A planetary center differential works with an electronically controlled continuously variable hydraulic transfer clutch to manage power distribution. The system normally sends more power to the rear wheels to enhance handling agility, and it continuously adjusts the power distribution in response to driving and road conditions.

These are examples of competitive AWD sedans. Note that in all instances, power is to all 4 wheels to at least SOME extent. The Mazdaspeed 6 doesn't follow this system as its standard setup is 100:0. Its a FWD sedan that "can become" an AWD one.

And then of course you have examples like the Evo MR...which are not only lighter then the ms6, but have one of the most advanced AWD systems on the market.

Hows 100:0:0:0 sound?