Mazda Reflashed my ECU, Now I Am Not Getting a Black Tailpipe!

[$inCitySpeed3]

ALSO Regardless of whether or not a delaer is an authorized speed dealer or not, TSB hit EVERY dealership. they have to, as you might not have access to a "special " dealer.
The only car i know that has a special ECU and it requires special info is the new Shelby Gt's as i had a tuner friend try to flash the ECU and wasn't able to. he had to get info from another source to break their special encryption crap.

Last comment if the flash is out there, WHY hasn't ANYONE produced the number for it????? Why is this reflash as secret as the conspirators behind the Kennedy assasination?????????

actually all new dodges(charger,SRTs,300 etc come with the encryption, and so do many others, whats funny is i've never heard of the shelby problem, and i doubt that there is just some guy out there with the code to break it because the nustang aftermarket is probably the biggestaftermaket for cars, but whatever...The flash is not a secert, every speed 3 in vegas has gotten it, i wasn't dont think it's a differnt ecu either, would be a waste, when they have bundles in the parts bin. I wouldn't think they wouldn,t make a TSB, due to the fact of the RX8 being underpowered and they had to buy thousands back, it is not a major problem, just a the air/fuel correction, and might only be affecting cars in different area, like the desert or high mtns, just a guess..






also my gas has increased a couple also

if the dealer doesn't carry speeds then it wouldn't carry anything for it if it pertains to the speed

 

[alien1979]

Update from Thread Starter

Hey all, glad to see there is much debate on this subject. After having the reflash for a while, here are some thoughts.

The tailpipe does eventually turn black again, but it takes MUCH longer to happen. It takes days or weeks now as opposed to less than a day.

I have been struggling with the idea of getting an intake. I want to get one ( Mazdaspeed or CPE) but havent decided which one. I am having a hard time believing that Mazda would send a part out the door without testing it, which I think is what CPE is alluding to. I would think if there was a possibility of a warranty issue they would test it.

At the same time, I have had some stupid problems with the car already (airbag system, blown shock, etc.) so anything is possible.

 

[justhavnfun]

Hey all,
I have about 900 miles on mine and the tail pipe is all black with stuff dripping off it.I wipe it off and it comes right back.So I took my car in to mazda and he looked for a new flash and didnt find anything.He said I could make a appointment and they will hook it up and check for a new flash.I kinda thought they would know if they had a new flash or not without hooking the car up but I made a appointment anyways.I take it in on Tue. and he said it shouldnt take more then 45mins.I also did the swiss cheese mod thing to my intake box and a K&N filter,I hope they dont say anything about all the holes.
The car seems to run pretty good beside the black stuff.It does seem to have a misfire or something when Im at idle.I dont really think its a misfire but I dont know what else to call it.It may only do it when the car is cold tho,Im not real sure.

Shark

you took a drill to your intake box?!!! omg!

 

[voiceKoil]

you took a drill to your intake box?!!! omg!

I took a RotoZIp to mine, one big hole on the side closest to the fender where theres a duct that feeds from the front of the bumper.. ZINGGG Put a K&N in and called it a day.

oh and Im gettin my whole car checked out tomorrow, Ive got a bunch of questions for them, this topic will be one of them because I swear I can sit and honestly watch my exhuast tip get dirty... I expected a little but its Very annoying as is..

 

[$inCitySpeed3]

you took a drill to your intake box?!!! omg!

U must not own one, or you dont folow the board much...yes it adds AP(ass power----prolly makes 1 or 2 ponies but no one has dynod before after) and make the turbo sound cool

 

[bast525]

Hoping that guy that works at Fredericksburg VA dealership will chime back in.

My car has been having the 'power fluctuations' as well.. sucks ass, sometimes it does not feel fast AT ALL.

I want to take it to the dealer but I can already see them being reluctant to do a damn thing about it....

 

[SharkDiver]

U must not own one, or you dont folow the board much...yes it adds AP(ass power----prolly makes 1 or 2 ponies but no one has dynod before after) and make the turbo sound cool

Im guessing more like 10-15Hp with the K&N and the holes.Someone did a dyno with the stock air box open and got 20hp then they put the MS CAI on and it added 30hp.But I do know its more hp then stock and thats what Im looking for in a free mod.

 

[bast525]

Im guessing more like 10-15Hp with the K&N and the holes.Someone did a dyno with the stock air box open and got 20hp then they put the MS CAI on and it added 30hp.But I do know its more hp then stock and thats what Im looking for in a free mod.

That's a rumor and it has been disproven. Sport Compact Car put a stock MS3 on the dyno and then tried running it with the air box open which threw a check engine light. They then tried running it with NO air filter in the air box and gained only a few peak HP, though they did pick up more power in the midrange, like 4000 rpm area. They then dynoed with CAI and catback exhaust and gained a peak of 15hp BUT the midrange from like 3000-4500rpm did gain about 30 hp/ftlbs which is a huge, and I imagine very noticeable when driving, difference.

If you find the dyno threads here people have been gaining as much as 20 hp from the CAI, no one gained 30 that I've seen and trust me I've searched a LOT.



Back on topic: called my local dealer and complained of the power fluctuations and rich running, I have an appointment tommorow to come hook up the computer and scan for any updated flashes. We shall see.

 

[hunterbrandon]

Just had my reflash done today and the car does feel a better but they also stuck an "authorized modification" sticker on my car. did anyone eles get this?

 

[camrycev6]

Talked to a MS3 dealer...they still don't know anything about a reflash. Something isn't right here...why would Mazda not inform the dealers? I am going to try another Speed dealer in the area....I will let everyone know...

 

[camrycev6]

Ok...here is the deal. I called another MS dealer and told them the story. He said he hasn't heard of any reflashes for MS3s, but there were 2 for MS6s. Just to be sure, he told me to give him my VIN, so I did and he confirmed that their were no reflashes, reprograms (his words), or upgrades available for the MS3. I don't know what more I can say. That is two different official speed dealers that say there just simply isn't one available for the MS3.

Mazda is either completely FUBAR as far as a company goes (to have some dealers doing an upgrade that doesn't even show up in their official system), or there is something very strange going on...

 

[hunterbrandon]

The dealer I went to actually had to call mazda tech assistance to get the upgrade and they had to manually load it. or thats what they told me anyway. it took them two days to get my car back to me so it might just take a while to get it from mazda

 

[camrycev6]

The dealer I went to actually had to call mazda tech assistance to get the upgrade and they had to manually load it. or thats what they told me anyway. it took them two days to get my car back to me so it might just take a while to get it from mazda

If you call a Mazdaspeed service department, how much more technical do you need to get? This guy put the VIN in the system that is supposed to tell them if there is even one available. I would understand if he said, "Yes there is one, but we don't have it here. We will have to order it, download, it, etc." The fact that two different dealerships say there isn't one available at all is perplexing. Surely if there was a Mazda tech support for Mazda technicians, they would be aware of it and could do a simply call / check to see if they were missing something. Considering the importance of updates / recalls / reprograms, you would think there would be constant updates between the two Mazda divisions. If not, this leads me back to my FUBAR theory....
(scratch)

 

[$inCitySpeed3]

Considering the importance of updates / recalls / reprograms, you would think there would be constant updates between the two Mazda divisions. If not, this leads me back to my FUBAR theory....

Maybe because it's not that big of a deal, not huge gains...very minimal, and they are still very rich, so why make a huge point when a better one will be out shortly, i just call bs that a dealer would waste the time for no reason, since they ar 60+ ahour and doing it for free

 

[knowledge007]

Maybe because it's not that big of a deal, not huge gains...very minimal, and they are still very rich, so why make a huge point when a better one will be out shortly, i just call bs that a dealer would waste the time for no reason, since they ar 60+ ahour and doing it for free

Thats not the point he is trying to make. This is a new model. With that being said, if there is a recall or a reflash all dealers should be notified as well as the buyer to keep the car up to date and running efficiently.

Why would some dealers reflash the system if there is no reason for the reflash. It does not make sense. I have also asked my dealer and they know nothing about a reflash or an update. Their is something very wrong here and this needs to be cleared up. But it seems that this is not going to happen anytime soon. And thats the part that scares me. Now I dont' even know If I should put my turbo back on or wait for the final outcome??? Turbo back is in hand...

 

[turbofever]

because the only reflash has to do with fixing the p2006 code i don't know why a dealer would do the reflash just because unless there is a p2006 code. they can't just update the ecu without the CEL being on mazda won't pay them for it.

+1 That's what my local dealer said aswell.

 

[clos561]

+1 That's what my local dealer said aswell.

p2006? what is that

 

[clos561]

if i have to take my car for a reflash should i taek my bov valve off and put on the stock one?

 

[$inCitySpeed3]

Just had my reflash done today and the car does feel a better but they also stuck an "authorized modification" sticker on my car. did anyone eles get this?

i did not

 

[knowledge007]

if i have to take my car for a reflash should i taek my bov valve off and put on the stock one?

If you have on recirc then no.